On Thu, 23 Jun 2011 20:18:39 -0500, Li'l Abner wrote:
> OK. I need to get the drive out of it anyway so I can get the guy's data
> backed up anyway.
No, you don't.
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lose the capacity to make any ethical choices, for they willingly
sacrifice others in the name of the politically expedient and
practical." - Dwight Macdonald, “The Root Is Man.”
From: "Aardvark" <aardvark@youllnever.know>
> On Thu, 23 Jun 2011 1911 -0400, David H. Lipman wrote:
>
>> Have you tried removing the hard disk from the affected computer and
>> placing on a surrogate computer ?
>
> Why bother doing that? Booting into a live Linux distro and fixing the
> problem using that will save all that trouble.
>
Vy placing the drive in a surrogate PC you have access to a wealth of software available
on said surrogate computer to examine, scan, verify and correct malware and malware
related anomolies on the affected hard disk. At best, booting off a live Linux distro
would be a limited subset of that surrogate computer's capability.
--
Dave
Multi-AV Scanning Tool - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp
"Aardvark" <aardvark@youllnever.know> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 23 Jun 2011 20:18:39 -0500, Li'l Abner wrote:
>
>> OK. I need to get the drive out of it anyway so I can get the guy's data
>> backed up anyway.
>
> No, you don't.
Indeed, but it is a well known almost sure-fire method of
ensuring that the malware isn't running while you do.
Cryptovirological ransomware could ransom your backups
too.
"Aardvark" <aardvark@youllnever.know> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 23 Jun 2011 19
>
>> Have you tried removing the hard disk from the affected computer and
>> placing on a surrogate computer ?
>
> Why bother doing that? Booting into a live Linux distro and fixing the
> problem using that will save all that trouble.
Not a very good idea Aardvark. As David pointed out there would be limitations as to
what you can access on the infected drive
^%$(*&()
From: "FromTheRafters" <erratic.howard@gmail.com>
< snip >
> Soon, there could be victimized firmware to consider as well.
>
I doubt "soon".
--
Dave
Multi-AV Scanning Tool - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp
On Fri, 24 Jun 2011 10:32:39 -0400, FromTheRafters wrote:
> "Aardvark" <aardvark@youllnever.know> wrote in message
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>> On Thu, 23 Jun 2011 20:18:39 -0500, Li'l Abner wrote:
>>
>>> OK. I need to get the drive out of it anyway so I can get the guy's
>>> data backed up anyway.
>>
>> No, you don't.
>
> Indeed, but it is a well known almost sure-fire method of ensuring that
> the malware isn't running while you do.
>
I didn't suggest running the OS which is installed on the HD being
examined/cleaned. I just said that it isn't necessary to remove the HD.
Boot CDs come in very handy, you know.
> Cryptovirological ransomware could ransom your backups too.
--
"Those who do not make human beings the center of their concern soon
lose the capacity to make any ethical choices, for they willingly
sacrifice others in the name of the politically expedient and
practical." - Dwight Macdonald, “The Root Is Man.”
On Fri, 24 Jun 2011 11:26:58 -0400, Peter Foldes wrote:
> "Aardvark" <aardvark@youllnever.know> wrote in message
> news:iu23hi$78n$4@dont-email.me...
>> On Thu, 23 Jun 2011 19
>>
>>> Have you tried removing the hard disk from the affected computer and
>>> placing on a surrogate computer ?
>>
>> Why bother doing that? Booting into a live Linux distro and fixing the
>> problem using that will save all that trouble.
>
>
>
> Not a very good idea Aardvark. As David pointed out there would be
> limitations as to what you can access on the infected drive
>
> ^%$(*&()
I've never had any trouble accessing/cleaning everything on a HD using a
number of different boot discs, ****wit.
--
"Those who do not make human beings the center of their concern soon
lose the capacity to make any ethical choices, for they willingly
sacrifice others in the name of the politically expedient and
practical." - Dwight Macdonald, “The Root Is Man.”
"Aardvark" <aardvark@youllnever.know> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 24 Jun 2011 10:32:39 -0400, FromTheRafters wrote:
>
>> "Aardvark" <aardvark@youllnever.know> wrote in message
>> news:iu23jk$78n$5@dont-email.me...
>>> On Thu, 23 Jun 2011 20:18:39 -0500, Li'l Abner wrote:
>>>
>>>> OK. I need to get the drive out of it anyway so I can get the guy's
>>>> data backed up anyway.
>>>
>>> No, you don't.
>>
>> Indeed, but it is a well known almost sure-fire method of ensuring that
>> the malware isn't running while you do.
>>
>
> I didn't suggest running the OS which is installed on the HD being
> examined/cleaned. I just said that it isn't necessary to remove the HD.
I know you didn't.
> Boot CDs come in very handy, you know.
It's nice to have alternatives that support whatever filesystem you
need to access. Linux discs are especially good about that.
Trash mouth with limited skills.
Also a Socialist leech.
"Aardvark" <aardvark@youllnever.know> wrote in message
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, ****wit.
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On Fri, 24 Jun 2011 16:00:53 -0400, FromTheRafters wrote:
> It's nice to have alternatives that support whatever filesystem you need
> to access. Linux discs are especially good about that.
My point exactly. Some in this group behave as if M$ OSen are the only
thing out there to do stuff with PCs. Understandable, as a number of them
have letters after their name beginning 'MS' or simply 'M'. IMO that will
have a tendency to blind them to alternatives.
I merely wanted to point out alternatives which are just as, or more,
effective.
--
"Those who do not make human beings the center of their concern soon
lose the capacity to make any ethical choices, for they willingly
sacrifice others in the name of the politically expedient and
practical." - Dwight Macdonald, “The Root Is Man.”
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