FromTheRafters <erratic@nomail.afraid.org> wrote in
news:isols7$itq$1@dont-email.me:

> gaz wrote:
>> FromTheRafters wrote:
>>> David H. Lipman wrote:
>>>> From: "FromTheRafters"<erratic@nomail.afraid.org>
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Which provides close to zero protection against the most common
>>>>>> type of current infections, the rogue security software
>>>>>> installers.
>>>>>
>>>>> The idea is to not install them. If you go around installing
>>>>> malware, no firewall is going to save you.
>>>>
>>>> The vast majority use Social Engineering which is the human
>>>> exploit.
>>>>
>>> Depending on what gets downloaded, the firewall is
>>> already defeated.
>>>
>>> I think gaz was implying that you need a better
>>> firewall to detect lame 'phone home' attempts.
>>> I am of the opinion that you've already lost the
>>> race when you have malware running behind the
>>> firewall.

>>
>> I was thinking more, a security product that can stop these
>> installations. Avira is an excellent anti virus, but, like all the
>> other anti virus and internet security products seem to be unable
>> to stop even malware products which are months old.
>>
>> As others have mentioned, probably a paid for malwarebytes is
>> necessary. At least they are quick to get on top of these
>> infections.

>
> For AV it used to be a case of which one can, and which cannot,
> detect a certain virus. With simple trojans running rampant, it
> comes down to who can react the fastest and get detectability to the
> customer quickly. Nevermind that the trojan will be morphed into a
> different form the very next day.


Forget the very next day, try the very next download. server side poly.


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