gaz wrote:
> FromTheRafters wrote:
>> David H. Lipman wrote:
>>> From: "FromTheRafters"<erratic@nomail.afraid.org>
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Which provides close to zero protection against the most common
>>>>> type of current infections, the rogue security software installers.
>>>>
>>>> The idea is to not install them. If you go around installing
>>>> malware, no firewall is going to save you.
>>>
>>> The vast majority use Social Engineering which is the human exploit.
>>>
>> Depending on what gets downloaded, the firewall is
>> already defeated.
>>
>> I think gaz was implying that you need a better
>> firewall to detect lame 'phone home' attempts.
>> I am of the opinion that you've already lost the
>> race when you have malware running behind the
>> firewall.
>
> I was thinking more, a security product that can stop these installations.
> Avira is an excellent anti virus, but, like all the other anti virus and
> internet security products seem to be unable to stop even malware products
> which are months old.
>
> As others have mentioned, probably a paid for malwarebytes is necessary. At
> least they are quick to get on top of these infections.

For AV it used to be a case of which one can, and which cannot, detect a
certain virus. With simple trojans running rampant, it comes down to who
can react the fastest and get detectability to the customer quickly.
Nevermind that the trojan will be morphed into a different form the very
next day.