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    Li'l Abner Guest

    Re: Free vs paid

    "Nobody > (Revisited)" <usenetharvested@aol.com> wrote in
    news:JvWGp.42168$_z3.17624@newsfe04.iad:

    > On 6/5/2011 6:41 PM, FromTheRafters wrote:
    >> Li'l Abner wrote:
    >>> I have a customer whose hard drive failed and I have now reinstalled
    >>> WIndows 7 on a new drive.
    >>>
    >>> His provider is HughesNet. They have him on a plan where he has a
    >>> ZoneAlarm
    >>> Security Suite of some kind or another that is supposed to protect
    >>> him from
    >>> everything. But they are charging him $3.95 a month for it.
    >>>
    >>> He has never had malware problems and is not a risky surfer. He is a
    >>> mule addict and practically every site he visits has to do with
    >>> mules... :-)
    >>>
    >>> I have suggested installing the free version of Avira or Avast, or
    >>> Microsoft Security Essentials.
    >>>
    >>> Does he even need a firewall other than the Windows firewall? If so,
    >>> I could always install the free version of ZoneAlarm.
    >>>
    >>> Or should I just reinstall the ZA Suite and let him keep paying?
    >>>
    >>> Personally, I use the free version of Avira and the paid version of
    >>> MBAM which runs resident. It's rare that either ever detects
    >>> anything and I live
    >>> a helluva lot more dangerous than my customer :-)
    >>>

    >> Avira and the firewall that came with Windows 7 is just fine IMO.

    >
    > I've had limited experience with Avira recently (used to be one of my
    > fave recommends), but the present "freebie" Avast 6 is great. I've
    > actually been recommending the Avast! Internet Security Suite to
    > friends and relatives, mainly because "I get less support calls at
    > 10PM". The biggest issue is the n00bie confusion when Avast decides it
    > nees to open something in it's "SandBox" mode...


    I have one machine that I use exclusively for a webserver. It also has
    mail, FTP, news, and Shoutcast servers. I have had Avast on it ever since
    Avira had a memory leak problem about a year ago. The other day I updated
    Avast to the newest version and it wanted to run my mailserver (MDaemon)
    in a sandbox. That was enough to turn ME off. It's now running Avira as
    are my other 3 computers.
    >
    > Win 7's firewall so far seems to be just as good at "basic intent" as
    > ZoneAlarm used to be.
    >
    > On my own machine, I do run the paid (and resident) MalwareBytes
    > AntiMalware (MBAM), I caught a killer deal on that. But, I "kinda
    > force" my "pigeons" (friends and family who want free IT advice) to
    > install it (free version) as an "on-demand" thing.


    We think exactly alike on that.

    > Something else regarding "free":
    > If you have some of those pigeons to deal with, have them install
    > "TeamViewer 6" (http://www.teamviewer.com). There may be better
    > "remote assistance" apps out there, but this one's extremely simple to
    > set up.


    And you know what's *really* good about it? User Account Control does not
    kill it! I was previously using either UltraVNC or Show My PC on all my
    customers with Vista or Windows 7. I always had to talk them through
    turning off UAC. The only thing I don't like about it is that it nags me
    to buy the paid version every time I go to get out of it.

    Thanks much for your reply!

    --
    --- Everybody has a right to my opinion. ---

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    Nobody > (Revisited) Guest

    Re: Free vs paid

    On 6/5/2011 9:29 PM, Li'l Abner wrote:

    >
    >> Something else regarding "free":
    >> If you have some of those pigeons to deal with, have them install
    >> "TeamViewer 6" (http://www.teamviewer.com). There may be better
    >> "remote assistance" apps out there, but this one's extremely simple to
    >> set up.

    >
    > And you know what's *really* good about it? User Account Control does not
    > kill it! I was previously using either UltraVNC or Show My PC on all my
    > customers with Vista or Windows 7. I always had to talk them through
    > turning off UAC. The only thing I don't like about it is that it nags me
    > to buy the paid version every time I go to get out of it.
    >
    > Thanks much for your reply!


    Thanks for that! There's "probably something wrong" with TeamViewer
    overall (security-wise), but so far this is the best answer for "remote
    assistance" I've found. I used to use the native "Windows Remote
    Assistance" app, but I got tired of all the "fone handholding" I had to
    do when either UAC or the other-end user's security software got in the
    way. I'm not saying that there won't be a snag sometime, but this puppy
    works!







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