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[G. Morgan]

Dustin wrote:

>Evidently you didn't catch my clarification request... MBAM has
>proprietary technology which allows it to hook lol (hehehe.. damn, I
>wish I could tell you) the file system.

And I wish I knew!

> MBAM is NOT malicious and
>doesn't install a rootkit or do anything else. I just can't tell you
>any specifics man, sorry. If you think it's malicious, your about as
>bright as BD.

I don't think it's malicious, it's installed on my machines!


>Did you seriously not catch what I really intended with my question?

Of course I did, we'll see what he comes up with. ;-)

>> That is not a trade secret I'm sure.
>
>Sadly, it is. Everybodies is. SuperAntispyware isn't going to cough up
>their specs either. LOL.

I'm not talking about revealing code, I'm more interested in the
methodology. I guess I will have to do my own research. Maybe I can
get you to confirm or deny my suppositions when I learn a little more?

[Dustin]

G. Morgan <G_Morgan@easy.com> wrote in
news:6s80v6ti98j3lkl4757926eaik2hr3cms7@Osama-is-dead.net:

> And I wish I knew!

It's really neat. But, my hands are tied.

> I don't think it's malicious, it's installed on my machines!

Same here. I routinely recommend it to people.

> Of course I did, we'll see what he comes up with. ;-)

I have a general idea. This isn't the first time he's made those
comments...

> I'm not talking about revealing code, I'm more interested in the
> methodology. I guess I will have to do my own research. Maybe I can
> get you to confirm or deny my suppositions when I learn a little more?

The methodology is proprietary. I can't discuss any internals. I wouldn't
be able to confirm or deny anything that isn't related to what
malwarebytes does or does not do. IE: in the case with BD, I know it
doesn't do anything malicious and thats as specific as I can get.


--
Why drink the water from my hand?
Contagious as you think I am
Just tilt my sun towards your domain
Your cup runneth over again

[~BD~]

G. Morgan wrote:
> Dustin wrote:
>
>> Evidently you didn't catch my clarification request... MBAM has
>> proprietary technology which allows it to hook lol (hehehe.. damn, I
>> wish I could tell you) the file system.
>
> And I wish I knew!
>
>> MBAM is NOT malicious and
>> doesn't install a rootkit or do anything else. I just can't tell you
>> any specifics man, sorry. If you think it's malicious, your about as
>> bright as BD.
>
> I don't think it's malicious, it's installed on my machines!
>
>
>> Did you seriously not catch what I really intended with my question?
>
> Of course I did, we'll see what he comes up with. ;-)
>
>>> That is not a trade secret I'm sure.
>>
>> Sadly, it is. Everybodies is. SuperAntispyware isn't going to cough up
>> their specs either. LOL.
>
> I'm not talking about revealing code, I'm more interested in the
> methodology. I guess I will have to do my own research. Maybe I can
> get you to confirm or deny my suppositions when I learn a little more?

Are you aware of anyone, Graham, who has loaded MBAM onto a fresh/clean
computer and then run the programme - the result should of course be
that nothing untoward would have been found.

Has that same machine then been forensically examined to determine if
MBAM has surrupticially installed it's very own malware - maybe a
rootkit? In normal course, no one who might have used MBAM to erradicate
malware would be remotely concerned once their computer appeared to be
operating satisfactorily again - now would they?!!

IIRC, SuperAntispyware was introduced at about the same time as MBAM.
has anyone tested *that* software in a similar manner?

I'm not alleging anything - I'm asking straight-forward questions!

FYI, you will see below that I *have* tried the diplomatic way (On
Wilders Security forums) by PM - without result!

**

BD sent a PM last December as follows:-


To: Marcin Kleczynski

Hello!

Please will you reconsider my ban and allow me to be a member of your
Malwarebytes forum again?

I had not meant to break the 'rules' by posting a slightly risqué Easter
card to Dustin Cook and I apologise for so doing. I am truly sorry that
my action offended.

I use your product myself and have recommended it to many others,
including some 'professionals'. You may be pleased to learn that I've
just run version 1.50 on my wife's XP laptop and it was 'clean'!

At the moment I am banned from posting! I hope you will help.

Sincerely

David B (aka BoaterDave and ~BD~ )

*

No response was received, so BD PM'd again as follows:-

*

Hello Bruce Harrison

I wonder if you could help in this regard?
(I copied my previous message to Marcin)

No response has been received from Mr Kleczynski and I got nowhere from
the bottom upwards.

Please at least acknowledge this message, even if you have no way of
helping. Thanks.

*

He replied as follows:-

I hope you understand that I have no idea what you are talking about so
there is no way I can say anything other than "I will have to look into
this".

*

There was no further contact! :-(

BD

[~BD~]

For anyone who is unaware:-

http://www.malwarebytes.org/company/management

[Beauregard T. Shagnasty]

~BD~ wrote (using his own nym for a change):

> I'm not alleging anything

Yes you are, in your usual slimy innuendo'd way.

> - I'm asking straight-forward questions!

Ha! That qualifies for the Joke of the Month.

--
-bts
-In a broadband world, you are just a dialup

[Polk Salad]

In article <isvcpg$o1o$1@dont-email.me>, ~BD~@nomail.afraid.com says...


>Please at least acknowledge this message, even if you have no way of
>helping. Thanks.
>
>*
>
>He replied as follows:-
>
>I hope you understand that I have no idea what you are talking about so
>there is no way I can say anything other than "I will have to look into
>this".
>
>*
>
>There was no further contact! :-(

Your absence the last few days has been "soothing."
Too bad you had to spoil it.

[Bullwinkle.]

Here is a straight forward question for you:

Are you the father of your daughters recent baby?

Your word is no good you will need to provide proof, either way.


"~BD~" <~BD~@nomail.afraid.com> wrote in message
news:isvcpg$o1o$1@dont-email.me...

I'm not alleging anything - I'm asking straight-forward questions!

[Dustin]

~BD~ <~BD~@nomail.afraid.com> wrote in
news:isvcpg$o1o$1@dont-email.me:

> I'm not alleging anything - I'm asking straight-forward questions!

Yes you are. In a slimy fashion.




--
Why drink the water from my hand?
Contagious as you think I am
Just tilt my sun towards your domain
Your cup runneth over again

[~BD~]

Dustin wrote:
> ~BD~<~BD~@nomail.afraid.com> wrote in
> news:isvcpg$o1o$1@dont-email.me:
>
>> I'm not alleging anything.

> Yes you are. In a slimy fashion.

In your opinion - that doesn't make it a fact!

> I'm asking straight-forward questions!

Read post #19 here http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=299502

"Carberp also installs a plug-in that removes other malware from the
infected machine. That's brilliant."

Do you recognise the similarity, Dustin?

You of course, albeit that you are an ex-employee, may have no knowledge
of some underlying activity which just *might* be taking place by
running MBAM. If you are (were) so good at what you say you did, Malware
research, why did Malwarebytes dispense with your services?

I'm just curious, but that fact might seem odd to other readers too!

Dave

[Dustin]

~BD~ <~BD~@nomail.afraid.com> wrote in
news:it3e51$3np$1@dont-email.me:

> In your opinion - that doesn't make it a fact!

Then why not just be straight forward?


> "Carberp also installs a plug-in that removes other malware from the
> infected machine. That's brilliant."
>
> Do you recognise the similarity, Dustin?

One uninstall for a very specific sample and you compare that to a
program which doesn't do a silent sneaky driveby install, and has a
real uninstaller for itself and detects thousands of other malware
programs? Give me a break. Paranoid isn't extreme in your case, eh?

> You of course, albeit that you are an ex-employee, may have no
> knowledge of some underlying activity which just *might* be taking
> place by running MBAM. If you are (were) so good at what you say you
> did, Malware research, why did Malwarebytes dispense with your
> services?

As you have already been told, I won't discuss specifics of my
departure with the company. It wasn't on bad terms if that's what your
trying to imply here via your usual slimeball ways. There is no way
MBAM did anything nefarious without one of us catching onto it. You're
simply making accusations because they tossed your ass on the forum.
Don't think people don't see you and this for what you and it is.

> I'm just curious, but that fact might seem odd to other readers too!

I don't care how curious you are. Fact is, you will *never* know.

--
Why drink the water from my hand?
Contagious as you think I am
Just tilt my sun towards your domain
Your cup runneth over again