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  1. #1
    Li'l Abner Guest

    What happens if...

    someone actually falls for the fake antivirus thing (whichever name it has
    at the time) and pays for it?

    Do they get any response at all after kissing their money goodbye?

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  2. #2
    JD Guest

    Re: What happens if...

    Li'l Abner wrote:
    > someone actually falls for the fake antivirus thing (whichever name it has
    > at the time) and pays for it?
    >
    > Do they get any response at all after kissing their money goodbye?
    >


    Yeah. They get a charge on their credit card. Does the fake antivirus
    thing fix anything? No. It's a fake.

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  3. #3
    David H. Lipman Guest

    Re: What happens if...

    From: "Li'l Abner" <blvstk@dogpatch.com>

    > someone actually falls for the fake antivirus thing (whichever name it has
    > at the time) and pays for it?
    >
    > Do they get any response at all after kissing their money goodbye?
    >
    > --


    They take the chance of unauthorized payments being posted to their respective account.

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  4. #4
    Dustin Guest

    Re: What happens if...

    "Li'l Abner" <blvstk@dogpatch.com> wrote in
    news:Xns9EE7BDBDEF3D3butter@wefb973cbe498:

    > someone actually falls for the fake antivirus thing (whichever name
    > it has at the time) and pays for it?


    Based on client experience, the following:

    He was smart and used a prepaid walmart visa which didn't have much
    additional cash on it. Good because after paying for his key (which did
    actually make the program quit begging) the cards balance was drained
    to nothing over the course of two days.

    The program when registered sits in the tray beside the clock, still
    detects fraudelent "viruses" and instead of begging to register,
    erroneously claims it's "cured" them. It still redirects and does
    everything else irritating. And if it's resident, may not allow you to
    run malwarebytes.

    This was antiviruspro2011 (I don't know the specific varient).

    > Do they get any response at all after kissing their money goodbye?


    We gave the fake software a week, and requested assistance via their
    "portal", but never got a response. When he emailed asking how to
    uninstall the product, we never got a response on that either; but the
    throw away email address did begin recieving alot of spam.

    He's been in touch with walmart.com over the charges, and walmart has
    refunded his money. I've since removed the offending program.



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  5. #5
    Li'l Abner Guest

    Re: What happens if...

    Dustin <bughunter.dustin@gmail.com> wrote in
    news:Xns9EEB9FF786F19HHI2948AJD832@no:

    > "Li'l Abner" <blvstk@dogpatch.com> wrote in
    > news:Xns9EE7BDBDEF3D3butter@wefb973cbe498:
    >
    >> someone actually falls for the fake antivirus thing (whichever name
    >> it has at the time) and pays for it?

    >
    > Based on client experience, the following:
    >
    > He was smart and used a prepaid walmart visa which didn't have much
    > additional cash on it. Good because after paying for his key (which did
    > actually make the program quit begging) the cards balance was drained
    > to nothing over the course of two days.
    >
    > The program when registered sits in the tray beside the clock, still
    > detects fraudelent "viruses" and instead of begging to register,
    > erroneously claims it's "cured" them. It still redirects and does
    > everything else irritating. And if it's resident, may not allow you to
    > run malwarebytes.
    >
    > This was antiviruspro2011 (I don't know the specific varient).
    >
    >> Do they get any response at all after kissing their money goodbye?

    >
    > We gave the fake software a week, and requested assistance via their
    > "portal", but never got a response. When he emailed asking how to
    > uninstall the product, we never got a response on that either; but the
    > throw away email address did begin recieving alot of spam.
    >
    > He's been in touch with walmart.com over the charges, and walmart has
    > refunded his money. I've since removed the offending program.


    Thanks, Dustin. Fortunately none of my clients has ever fallen for it. A
    couple of them were about to but they called me first and I headed them
    off.
    Now I know that if any of them does fall for it, I can at least warn them
    to alert their credit card company and get a new card.

    What I could never figure out is why they can't "catch" the culprits if
    the credit card companies are crediting them with the money.

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  6. #6
    Dustin Guest

    Re: What happens if...

    "Li'l Abner" <blvstk@dogpatch.com> wrote in
    news:Xns9EEBDDDF64771butter@wefb973cbe498:

    > Thanks, Dustin. Fortunately none of my clients has ever fallen for
    > it. A couple of them were about to but they called me first and I
    > headed them off.


    In this case, he was a formally unknown. Fresh client referred by
    another company that didn't want to deal with him. He can be a bit..
    harsh, but he's an older fellow and that seems to be the way things are
    locally here. I'm sure he would have called me before paying for it if
    he knew about me. [g].

    > Now I know that if any of them does fall for it, I can at least warn
    > them to alert their credit card company and get a new card.


    Yep. In fact, if your clients are state based; I don't know your
    location and due to atleast one stalking individual I wouldn't ask you
    to provide it here anyway (nor do I recommend you do so), but it
    wouldn't hurt to suggest they invest in a reloadable prepaid visa card
    for online purchases and mucking around the internet. It's much much
    easier to replace one of those than it is to deal with your actual
    bank. Also, it serves to shield your bank account from would be bad
    guys.

    > What I could never figure out is why they can't "catch" the culprits
    > if the credit card companies are crediting them with the money.


    I'm thinking the credit card companies are paying a proxy service,
    which in turn pays the bad guys indirectly.




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    Contagious as you think I am
    Just tilt my sun towards your domain
    Your cup runneth over again

  7. #7
    ~BD~ Guest

    Re: What happens if...

    Dustin wrote:
    > I'm thinking the credit card companies are paying a proxy service,
    > which in turn pays the bad guys indirectly.
    >


    I suppose one could include PayPal as being such a proxy service! <g>

  8. #8
    Li'l Abner Guest

    Re: What happens if...

    ~BD~ <~BD~@nomail.afraid.com> wrote in news:iras63$80p$1@dont-email.me:

    > Dustin wrote:
    >> I'm thinking the credit card companies are paying a proxy service,
    >> which in turn pays the bad guys indirectly.
    >>

    >
    > I suppose one could include PayPal as being such a proxy service! <g>


    Damn. Can't you stay out of *anything*!?

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