Genuine query - is this a genuine product?

[Aardvark]

On Sun, 03 Apr 2011 14:45:05 +0100, ~BD~ wrote:

> On 03/04/2011 13:10, Bullwinkle wrote:
>> Why don't you ask?
>
> Ah! Good question!
>
> My friend went there recently.
>
> After his visit he encountered a problem with his computer!
>

No, he didn't, and you give a very good hint at what most probably caused
the problem in your next paragraph:

> When he tried to switch off his machine before going to bed, he got a
> message saying that an update needed to be installed - he OK'd that and
> went to bed. Next morning, evidently, when he looked at his computer he
> was dismayed to find that it had *still* not shut down!
>

So, as often happens, a Windoze update b0rked something.

> Fortunately, he had Acronis installed, so was quickly able to restore
> his computer to how it had been - to a point before he had visited
> Annexcafe User2User.
>
> Methinks he'll not go *there* again for help with his computer!
>

What about the next time he downloads that update?

> Ho hum!

Indeed.



--
“Freedom without socialism is privilege and injustice, and socialism
without freedom is slavery and brutality.” -Mikhail Bakunin

[~BD~]

On 03/04/2011 15:12, Aardvark wrote:
> On Sun, 03 Apr 2011 14:45:05 +0100, ~BD~ wrote:
>
>> On 03/04/2011 13:10, Bullwinkle wrote:
>>> Why don't you ask?
>>
>> Ah! Good question!
>>
>> My friend went there recently.
>>
>> After his visit he encountered a problem with his computer!
>>
>
> No, he didn't, and you give a very good hint at what most probably caused
> the problem in your next paragraph:

Yes - he did!

>> When he tried to switch off his machine before going to bed, he got a
>> message saying that an update needed to be installed - he OK'd that and
>> went to bed. Next morning, evidently, when he looked at his computer he
>> was dismayed to find that it had *still* not shut down!
>>
>
> So, as often happens, a Windoze update b0rked something.

The thing was, according to Belarc Advisor, his computer was *already*
up-to-date as far as Windows updates were concerned. As you know, I'm
sure, such updates are issued on the second Tuesday of each month
(almost always) - well removed from when this occurred!

>> Fortunately, he had Acronis installed, so was quickly able to restore
>> his computer to how it had been - to a point before he had visited
>> Annexcafe User2User.
>>
>> Methinks he'll not go *there* again for help with his computer!
>>
>
> What about the next time he downloads that update?

There was *no* official 'update' relevant at that time!

>> Ho hum!
>
> Indeed.
>
>
>

[Aardvark]

On Sun, 03 Apr 2011 15:38:45 +0100, ~BD~ wrote:

> On 03/04/2011 15:12, Aardvark wrote:
>> On Sun, 03 Apr 2011 14:45:05 +0100, ~BD~ wrote:
>>
>>> On 03/04/2011 13:10, Bullwinkle wrote:
>>>> Why don't you ask?
>>>
>>> Ah! Good question!
>>>
>>> My friend went there recently.
>>>
>>> After his visit he encountered a problem with his computer!
>>>
>>>
>> No, he didn't, and you give a very good hint at what most probably
>> caused the problem in your next paragraph:
>
> Yes - he did!
>

The two events aren't necessarily connected. In fact, I suspect they
aren't.

>>> When he tried to switch off his machine before going to bed, he got a
>>> message saying that an update needed to be installed - he OK'd that
>>> and went to bed. Next morning, evidently, when he looked at his
>>> computer he was dismayed to find that it had *still* not shut down!
>>>
>>>
>> So, as often happens, a Windoze update b0rked something.
>
> The thing was, according to Belarc Advisor, his computer was *already*
> up-to-date as far as Windows updates were concerned.

Means nothing.

> As you know, I'm
> sure, such updates are issued on the second Tuesday of each month
> (almost always) - well removed from when this occurred!
>

And, occasionally, critical security updates are offered for download on
whatever day they become available.

>>> Fortunately, he had Acronis installed, so was quickly able to restore
>>> his computer to how it had been - to a point before he had visited
>>> Annexcafe User2User.
>>>
>>> Methinks he'll not go *there* again for help with his computer!
>>>
>>>
>> What about the next time he downloads that update?
>
> There was *no* official 'update' relevant at that time!
>

See above re 'critical security updates'.

>>> Ho hum!
>>
>> Indeed.
>>
>>
>>





--
“Freedom without socialism is privilege and injustice, and socialism
without freedom is slavery and brutality.” -Mikhail Bakunin

[~BD~]

Aardvark wrote:
> On Sun, 03 Apr 2011 15:38:45 +0100, ~BD~ wrote:
>
>> On 03/04/2011 15:12, Aardvark wrote:
>>> On Sun, 03 Apr 2011 14:45:05 +0100, ~BD~ wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 03/04/2011 13:10, Bullwinkle wrote:
>>>>> Why don't you ask?
>>>>
>>>> Ah! Good question!
>>>>
>>>> My friend went there recently.
>>>>
>>>> After his visit he encountered a problem with his computer!
>>>>
>>>>
>>> No, he didn't, and you give a very good hint at what most probably
>>> caused the problem in your next paragraph:
>>
>> Yes - he did!
>>
>
> The two events aren't necessarily connected. In fact, I suspect they
> aren't.

Well I'm pleased that *you* suffered from no ill effects after *your* visit!

There again, maybe you didn't actually make a post there on U2U.

>>>> When he tried to switch off his machine before going to bed, he got a
>>>> message saying that an update needed to be installed - he OK'd that
>>>> and went to bed. Next morning, evidently, when he looked at his
>>>> computer he was dismayed to find that it had *still* not shut down!
>>>>
>>>>
>>> So, as often happens, a Windoze update b0rked something.
>>
>> The thing was, according to Belarc Advisor, his computer was *already*
>> up-to-date as far as Windows updates were concerned.
>
> Means nothing.

I see.

>> As you know, I'm
>> sure, such updates are issued on the second Tuesday of each month
>> (almost always) - well removed from when this occurred!
>>
>
> And, occasionally, critical security updates are offered for download on
> whatever day they become available.

Indeed - as I said, "almost always!

>>>> Fortunately, he had Acronis installed, so was quickly able to restore
>>>> his computer to how it had been - to a point before he had visited
>>>> Annexcafe User2User.
>>>>
>>>> Methinks he'll not go *there* again for help with his computer!
>>>>
>>>>
>>> What about the next time he downloads that update?
>>
>> There was *no* official 'update' relevant at that time!
>>
>
> See above re 'critical security updates'.

See above re 'almost always'.

D.

[Aardvark]

On Sun, 03 Apr 2011 16:30:55 +0100, ~BD~ wrote:

> Aardvark wrote:
>> On Sun, 03 Apr 2011 15:38:45 +0100, ~BD~ wrote:
>>
>>> On 03/04/2011 15:12, Aardvark wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 03 Apr 2011 14:45:05 +0100, ~BD~ wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 03/04/2011 13:10, Bullwinkle wrote:
>>>>>> Why don't you ask?
>>>>>
>>>>> Ah! Good question!
>>>>>
>>>>> My friend went there recently.
>>>>>
>>>>> After his visit he encountered a problem with his computer!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> No, he didn't, and you give a very good hint at what most probably
>>>> caused the problem in your next paragraph:
>>>
>>> Yes - he did!
>>>
>>>
>> The two events aren't necessarily connected. In fact, I suspect they
>> aren't.
>
> Well I'm pleased that *you* suffered from no ill effects after *your*
> visit!
>

I certainly wouldn't expect to.

> There again, maybe you didn't actually make a post there on U2U.
>

Maybe I didn't.

>>>>> When he tried to switch off his machine before going to bed, he got
>>>>> a message saying that an update needed to be installed - he OK'd
>>>>> that and went to bed. Next morning, evidently, when he looked at his
>>>>> computer he was dismayed to find that it had *still* not shut down!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> So, as often happens, a Windoze update b0rked something.
>>>
>>> The thing was, according to Belarc Advisor, his computer was *already*
>>> up-to-date as far as Windows updates were concerned.
>>
>> Means nothing.
>
> I see.
>

I doubt it.

>>> As you know, I'm
>>> sure, such updates are issued on the second Tuesday of each month
>>> (almost always) - well removed from when this occurred!
>>>
>>>
>> And, occasionally, critical security updates are offered for download
>> on whatever day they become available.
>
> Indeed - as I said, "almost always!
>

And so I decided to put some flesh on the bones of your two-word
dismissal of other possibilities.

>>>>> Fortunately, he had Acronis installed, so was quickly able to
>>>>> restore his computer to how it had been - to a point before he had
>>>>> visited Annexcafe User2User.
>>>>>
>>>>> Methinks he'll not go *there* again for help with his computer!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> What about the next time he downloads that update?
>>>
>>> There was *no* official 'update' relevant at that time!
>>>
>>>
>> See above re 'critical security updates'.
>
> See above re 'almost always'.
>

See above re putting flesh on bones.

> D.

A.



--
“Freedom without socialism is privilege and injustice, and socialism
without freedom is slavery and brutality.” -Mikhail Bakunin