Re: Download registry cleaners

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Trifle Menot wrote:
>
> I don't use AV software, I like to surf naked. If I plan to visit sites
> of dubious reputation, I may use VMware or Virtualbox and run Windows in
> their sandbox. If it gets trashed by a virus, it's contained within the
> sandbox and the host OS remains uninfected.
>
You can use Sandboxie to run just the web browser and keep things away from
the OS. It will run any program sandboxed. Velly niiiice.



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On 21/03/2011 16:38, thanatoid wrote:
> ~BD~<~BD~@nomail.afraid.com> wrote in
> news:QJGdnbeUFMjxjBrQnZ2dnUVZ7vOdnZ2d@bt.com:
>
> <snip>
>
>> I learn something new every day! I'd not heard of Agnitum
>> before. I've had a quick look at the web site, but do not
>> see a free version. Thanks for mentioning it though.
>
> http://www.agnitum.com/r/menuen/ossfree/
>
> This is all I could find. If you use the full suite, unless you
> disable the AV, you should not run another AV. I read about a
> year ago that they were providing a fully functional free
> firewall (not a suite) - things may have changed.

Thank for that. I've kept it for future reference (it's only for Windows!)

>>> For AV I strongly recommend ESET NOD32 - just the virus
>>> scanner. No need for the full suite. Their AV is the best,
>>> but I don't know if their /firewall/ is - I /do/ know it
>>> is NOT free ;-)
>>
>> I'm aware of NOD32 and it's reputation At present my XP
>> machines are using MSE and the Windows firewall (connecting
>> wirelessly through a BT home hub) - all *seems* to be
>> working as it should!
>
> As I read somewhere, using MS security software is like hiring a
> pedophile to work in a day care center.



or........

"Running Windows based AV to kill active malware is like striking a
match to see if what you are standing in is water or petrol!"


ESET now has Cybersecurity for a Mac - I've downloaded a 1 month trial

Nothing found in two scans!

http://www.eset.com/home/products/cybersecurity/


Running Windows based AV to kill active malware is like striking a match
to see if what you are standing in is water or petrol!

[BillW50]

On 3/22/2011 6:41 PM, ~BD~ wrote:
> "Running Windows based AV to kill active malware is like striking a
> match to see if what you are standing in is water or petrol!"
>
>
> ESET now has Cybersecurity for a Mac - I've downloaded a 1 month trial
>
> Nothing found in two scans!
>
> http://www.eset.com/home/products/cybersecurity/
>
>
> Running Windows based AV to kill active malware is like striking a match
> to see if what you are standing in is water or petrol!

Yet I have been running Windows since 3.1 and I never had a virus yet. I
believe I know the reason for this. And that is some people don't know
how viruses get on your system to begin with.

--
Bill
Gateway M465e ('06 era)
Centrino Core Duo 1.83G - 2GB - Windows XP SP3

[~BD~]

On 23/03/2011 00:08, BillW50 wrote:
> On 3/22/2011 6:41 PM, ~BD~ wrote:

>> "Running Windows based AV to kill active malware is like striking a
>> match to see if what you are standing in is water or petrol!"

> Yet I have been running Windows since 3.1 and I never had a virus yet. I
> believe I know the reason for this. And that is some people don't know
> how viruses get on your system to begin with.
>

Go on then, Bill - spill the beans! ;-)

Eager minds yearn to know the secret of *your* success!

Personally, I've always tried to follow the guidance provided here:-

http://www.claymania.com/safe-hex.html

[Trifle Menot]

On Tue, 22 Mar 2011 19:08:45 -0500, BillW50 <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote:

>On 3/22/2011 6:41 PM, ~BD~ wrote:

>> Running Windows based AV to kill active malware is like striking a match
>> to see if what you are standing in is water or petrol!

>Yet I have been running Windows since 3.1 and I never had a virus yet. I
>believe I know the reason for this. And that is some people don't know
>how viruses get on your system to begin with.

Most people know what causes pregnancy too. But they keep on doing it
anyway.



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[~BD~]

On 23/03/2011 03:59, thanatoid wrote:
[....]
> You know, considering many people, me included, only show 3 or 4
> post headers by default, it might have saved /some of us/ a LOT
> of time if you had said you were using a Mac. SIGH.
>
> <snip>

Hey! Don't be mad! I've got _Windows_ machines too. ;-)

I spend much of my time in the summer on board my 60ft narrowboat and
currently use an Acer laptop with Windows XP when boating. My Mac has to
stay at home! I do still need to know about the registry.

I very much appreciate the time and trouble you have spent helping me
with your comments. Thank you, 'thanatoid'.

[~BD~]

On 23/03/2011 01:21, BillW50 wrote:
[....]
> I scanned the contains of this link and I do agree with them mostly.
> There are three thing that I do (the others are just common sense like
> opening email attachments) that I don't even count.
>
> The very most important thing if you do nothing at all is to run a
> stealth firewall. As without doing so, hackers, bots, etc. can see you
> online. You don't have to do a single thing online, just be connected.
> And how they find you is by many different methods. But what tips them
> off is by your computer answering behind your back. Now they know you
> are online by your IP address and then go to work at any hole in the
> system you might have.
>
> But when you use a stealth firewall, your computer pretends that it
> isn't there. So they can't do a single thing. That stops 99.999% of the
> nonsense right there. Windows XP firewall is stealth, routers can be
> stealth, hardware firewalls can be too, and third party firewalls as well.
>
> The second most important thing is a great up-to-date AV running in real
> time. Just these two things does wonders.
>
> Want more protection? Use a sandbox for all Internet activity. Almost
> anything getting through is virtually nil from the first two things, but
> this step should take care of anything that might rarely get through.
>
> A lot of people place a lot of stock in Windows Updates (WU). If you do
> the above three, the WU isn't really going to add more security as the
> earlier protection will stop it before it gets to this point.

Thank you for your comments, Bill. I wish I'd known all about this kind
of thing 10 years ago! You'll be pleased to know that I've learned much
from helpful folk like you. Thanks.

> This is pretty much it. Although if you want more, Windows Embedded
> allows writing to RAM, but not to disk (any disk writes gets redirected
> to RAM). So think of Windows running in ROM. There are other programs
> like this too for Windows. But nothing can hook themselves into the OS
> at all.

I had to 'Google' for that -I'd not come across it before!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Embedded

Dave