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    Peter Foldes Guest

    Re: Download registry cleaners

    "~BD~" <~BD~@nomail.afraid.com> wrote in message
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    > On 20/03/2011 17:43, thanatoid wrote:
    >> ~BD~<~BD~@nomail.afraid.com> wrote in
    >> news:guWdnab50NcpZhjQnZ2dnUVZ8tednZ2d@bt.com:


    > I'm no guru, that's for sure, but my conception is that if malware becomes
    > resident on a Windows machine it will *always* add and/or change Registry entries.
    > If they are not 'put right' surely such malware could remain active?
    >
    > That's why I'm a little sceptical of the advice recommended by folk in the Aumha
    > thread! http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?t=28099
    >
    > Dave
    >
    > PS alt.privacy.spyware added to gain a wider spread of views



    You are a real gem. Why do you need to crosspost this to so many newsgroups. I also
    included the Aumha view on account that it is accurate. You David are one bad
    nutcase and your understanding of how and why the Registry and the hives within
    exist and how it works is far above your understanding .

    But just in case read the following.

    Why would you even think you'd ever need to clean your registry?
    What specific *problems* are you actually experiencing (not some
    program's bogus listing of imaginary problems) that you think can be
    fixed by using a registry "cleaner?"

    If you do have a problem that is rooted in the registry, it would
    be far better to simply edit (after backing up, of course) only the
    specific key(s) and/or value(s) that are causing the problem. After
    all, why use a chainsaw when a scalpel will do the job? Additionally,
    the manually changing of one or two registry entries is far less likely
    to have the dire consequences of allowing an automated product to make
    multiple changes simultaneously. The only thing needed to safely clean
    your registry is knowledge and Regedit.exe.

    The registry contains all of the operating system's "knowledge" of
    the computer's hardware devices, installed software, the location of the
    device drivers, and the computer's configuration. A misstep in the
    registry can have severe consequences. One should not even turning
    loose a poorly understood automated "cleaner," unless he is fully
    confident that he knows *exactly* what is going to happen as a result of
    each and every change.

    Having repeatedly seen the results of inexperienced people using
    automated registry "cleaners," I can only advise all but the most
    experienced computer technicians (and/or hobbyists) to avoid them all.
    Experience has shown me that such tools simply are not safe in the hands
    of the inexperienced user. If you lack the knowledge and experience to
    maintain your registry by yourself, then you also lack the knowledge and
    experience to safely configure and use any automated registry cleaner,
    no matter how safe they claim to be.

    More importantly, no one has ever demonstrated that the use of an
    automated registry "cleaner," particularly by an untrained,
    inexperienced computer user, does any real good, whatsoever. There's
    certainly been no empirical evidence offered to demonstrate that the use
    of such products to "clean" WinXP's registry improves a computer's
    performance or stability. Given the potential for harm, it's just not
    worth the risk.

    Granted, most registry "cleaners" won't cause problems each and
    every time they're used, but the potential for harm is always there.
    And, since no registry "cleaner" has ever been demonstrated to do any
    good (think of them like treating the flu with chicken soup - there's no
    real medicinal value, but it sometimes provides a warming placebo
    effect), I always tell people that the risks far out-weigh the
    non-existent benefits.

    I will concede that a good registry *scanning* tool, in the hands
    of an experienced and knowledgeable technician or hobbyist can be a
    useful time-saving diagnostic tool, as long as it's not allowed to make
    any changes automatically. But I really don't think that there are any
    registry "cleaners" that are truly safe for the general public to use.
    Experience has proven just the opposite: such tools simply are not safe
    in the hands of the inexperienced user.

    A little further reading on the subject:

    Why I don't use registry cleaners
    http://www.edbott.com/weblog/?p=643

    AumHa Forums . View topic - AUMHA Discussion: Should I Use a Registry
    Cleaner?
    http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?t=28099



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    ~BD~ Guest

    Re: Download registry cleaners

    On 20/03/2011 19:18, Peter Foldes wrote:

    > Why do you need to crosspost this to so many newsgroups.


    Three groups is not "so many"

    It is not your business to alter what I choose to do. Reinstated.

    > Your understanding of how and why the Registry and the hives within exist and how it works is far above your understanding.


    It is exactly *why* I ask for comments in the groups.

    Why didn't you simply answer the question?

    "Do you have the expertise to run the facility on a known 'good' machine
    to test if PCMightyMax is actually telling the truth or whether it will
    find problems where none actually exist?"

    Otherwise, there was absolutely no need for you to become involved.

    Unless you have some other agenda. Have you?

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