Suspicious link? - A query

[Peter Foldes]

Yes it does have a download button. If you read Portuguese then you would know.
Secondly the page in question that you so badly think is wrong is the one that comes
up after the initial page for XP SP3 in Portuguese .When on the initial page you
press the download button for XP SP3 this page that you are so wound up about pops
up saying thank you for the download and it your download does not start in 30
seconds then click here. And if you click on the Iniciar transferência the download
for XP SP3 from MS and their valid server starts to download the Portuguese version
of XP SP3

Se a transferência não iniciar dentro de 30 segundos, clique nesta hiperligação:
Iniciar transferência.

PLEASE STOP BEATING A DEAD HORSE




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"~BD~" <~BD~@nomail.afraid.org> wrote in message
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> Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
>> ~BD~ wrote:
>>
>>> I imagined that my initial query could have been *simply* answered but
>>> AFAICT no one has advised *why* with this particular link the .exe
>>> file is *automatically* downloaded to a computer without any user
>>> interaction (i.e. no need to press a 'download button').
>>
>> Fer cryin' out loud... it's an *.EXE* file! It's not a *web page*. A
>> direct link to an *.EXE* file CANNOT have a *'download button'*.
>>
>
> Bts,
>
> Let me *show* you the web page which *I* see.
>
> Surely *THIS* is not an .exe file - is it?!!!
>
> http://i52.tinypic.com/nbemuu.jpg
>
> I'm really *not* meaning to be difficult about this - I simply wish to understand!
> Any other Microsoft web page I go to offering a download of some sort (some
> examples were earlier posted by Peter Foldes) have a 'Download' button - this one
> does not.
>
> WHY? That's all I ask!
> ***
>
>
> D.

[~BD~]

Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
> ~BD~ wrote:
>
>> ~BD~ wrote:
>>> WHY? That's all I ask!
>>> ***
>>
>> Here's a translation by Google.
>>
>> The way I read it, it seems that one *should* have to 'click' before a
>> download starts.<shrug>
>>
>> http://i55.tinypic.com/1z6cto1.jpg
>>
>> Maybe I'm not understanding correctly? If I'm not not, please explain.
>
> 1. "Clique aqui para instalar o Silverlight"
> 2. you weren't using Windows XP
> 3. you weren't using Internet Explorer
>

Your patience requested, Bts. Please?

I'm not convinced you responses are relevant.

This is the proper page to *obtain* the download:

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...playLang=pt-pt

Once one presses the download button, one is whisked away to here

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/t...playLang=pt-pt

You will note that it's the same at the original SP3 link in 24hsh

So far, so good - but *who* pushed a *download button* to effect the
actual download and *why* was the link posted in the newsgroup?

If one takes take the challenge:
https://www.phish-no-phish.com/default.aspx it will be easy to see how
real a *fake* web page can look.

I still need to be convinced that the web page I see when clicking the
SP3 link is *real* and that the .exe file delivered to one's computer is
a bonio fido SP3 file and not something containing malware.

Is there *anyone* on this group who has the wherewithal to download the
file and CHECK that it is just as it should be? If not, can someone
direct me to somewhere when it could be checked.

TIA

[~BD~]

Peter Foldes wrote:

> PLEASE STOP BEATING A DEAD HORSE

*Why are you so concerned* about my possible misunderstanding?

One no longer needs to read the language - why didn't you look here?

http://i55.tinypic.com/1z6cto1.jpg

Perhaps you should read my response to BTS and explain how anyone can
tell, simply from *looking* at it, whether This is a real or *fake* page:-

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/t...playLang=pt-pt

Whatever, the truth *will* out!

For my part, I'm happy and relaxed. Time now to cut the grass!

D.

[Beauregard T. Shagnasty]

~BD~ wrote:

> Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
>> ~BD~ wrote:
>>> ~BD~ wrote:
>>>> WHY? That's all I ask!
>>>> ***
>>> The way I read it, it seems that one *should* have to 'click' before a
>>> download starts.<shrug>
>>>
>>> http://i55.tinypic.com/1z6cto1.jpg
>>>
>>> Maybe I'm not understanding correctly? If I'm not not, please explain.
>>
>> 1. "Clique aqui para instalar o Silverlight"
>> 2. you weren't using Windows XP
>> 3. you weren't using Internet Explorer
>
> Your patience requested, Bts. Please?

With you, that is very difficult.

> I'm not convinced you responses are relevant.

Why? *Are* you using a Windows XP computer with Silverlight installed
in Internet Explorer? What would you expect to be served with your Mac?

> This is the proper page to *obtain* the download:
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...playLang=pt-pt
>
> Once one presses the download button, one is whisked away to here

I don't have Windows nor Silverlight. I don't see a "download button."

> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/t...playLang=pt-pt
>
> You will note that it's the same at the original SP3 link in 24hsh

What "original SP3 link in 24hsh" ? 24hoursupport.helpdesk?

> So far, so good - but *who* pushed a *download button* to effect the
> actual download and *why* was the link posted in the newsgroup?

Message-ID?

> I still need to be convinced that the web page I see when clicking the
> SP3 link is *real* and that the .exe file delivered to one's computer
> is a bonio fido SP3 file and not something containing malware.

The file comes from * www.microsoft.com * ... That company is not known
for serving malware for system updates.

> Is there *anyone* on this group who has the wherewithal to download
> the file and CHECK that it is just as it should be? If not, can
> someone direct me to somewhere when it could be checked.

Why on earth would *I* want to download a *~316 MEGABYTE* file to check
because *you* won't do it yourself? Do your own work.

--
-bts
-Four wheels carry the body; two wheels move the soul

[Heather]

"Dustin" <bughunter.dustin@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> "Peter Foldes" <okf22@hotmail.com> wrote in
> news:ial7i0$o1i$1@speranza.aioe.org:
>
>>:-). Heard you . I will go another way with him in another group
>>:where nobody from
>> here is at and that includes SE also
>
>
> I really appreciate it.

DITTO!!! He has to be the world's most annoying moron!!
>
>
> --
> Some people are like a Slinky. Not much good for anything, but you can't
> help but smile when one tumbles down the stairs.

[StevieO]

No wonder others control your computers.


"~BD~" <~BD~@nomail.afraid.org> wrote in message
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<snip stupid ****>

TIA

[~BD~]

Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
> ~BD~ wrote:
>
>> Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
>>> ~BD~ wrote:
>>>> ~BD~ wrote:
>>>>> WHY? That's all I ask!
>>>>> ***
>>>> The way I read it, it seems that one *should* have to 'click' before a
>>>> download starts.<shrug>
>>>>
>>>> http://i55.tinypic.com/1z6cto1.jpg
>>>>
>>>> Maybe I'm not understanding correctly? If I'm not not, please explain.
>>>
>>> 1. "Clique aqui para instalar o Silverlight"
>>> 2. you weren't using Windows XP
>>> 3. you weren't using Internet Explorer
>>
>> Your patience requested, Bts. Please?
>
> With you, that is very difficult.

It really doesn't have to be that way.

Can we not start over?

>> I'm not convinced you responses are relevant.
>
> Why? *Are* you using a Windows XP computer with Silverlight installed
> in Internet Explorer? What would you expect to be served with your Mac?

No - but I could if I wanted to. Totally irrelevant IMO. You *should* be
able to see exactly the same as me. I'm using my Mac specifically so
that it *cannot* be infected by .exe files!

>> This is the proper page to *obtain* the download:
>>
>> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...playLang=pt-pt
>>
>> Once one presses the download button, one is whisked away to here
>
> I don't have Windows nor Silverlight. I don't see a "download button."

I suggest that you select the Dutch version (in the centre of the page)
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...8-1e1555d4f3d4

Is that any better?

>> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/t...playLang=pt-pt
>>
>> You will note that it's the same at the original SP3 link in 24hsh
>
> What "original SP3 link in 24hsh" ? 24hoursupport.helpdesk?

Yes.

>> So far, so good - but *who* pushed a *download button* to effect the
>> actual download and *why* was the link posted in the newsgroup?
>
> Message-ID?

<iaf260$arm$1@news.eternal-september.org>

http://al.howardknight.net/msgid.cgi...tember.org%3E+

>> I still need to be convinced that the web page I see when clicking the
>> SP3 link is *real* and that the .exe file delivered to one's computer
>> is a bonio fido SP3 file and not something containing malware.
>
> The file comes from * www.microsoft.com * ... That company is not known
> for serving malware for system updates.

I'm not for a moment suggesting that *Microsoft* serves malware.

'Bad guys' who use spoof web pages *do*, though!

>> Is there *anyone* on this group who has the wherewithal to download
>> the file and CHECK that it is just as it should be? If not, can
>> someone direct me to somewhere when it could be checked.
>
> Why on earth would *I* want to download a *~316 MEGABYTE* file to check
> because *you* won't do it yourself? Do your own work.

If I knew *how* to check the file for authenticity, I would do so. I'm
here asking (no, grovelling!) for help/advice from you or others who may
know how to do so. If you don't wish to help, that's fine but you surely
could point me in the right direction, couldn't you?

I note that you avoided mentioning 'the challenge' ......
https://www.phish-no-phish.com/default.aspx

Did you take it? If you did, you will have noticed how easy it is to
spoof (copy) the *real McCoy*. All I wish to establish is that the SP3
file posted - for no apparent reason - in the 24hsh group is *real* and
is of no danger to anyone.

My motives are genuine. I simply don't like 'bad guys'! ;-)

HTH

D.

[~BD~]

StevieO wrote:
> No wonder others control your computers.
>
>
> "~BD~"<~BD~@nomail.afraid.org> wrote in message
> news:rM-dndj_7tIwhU3RnZ2dnUVZ8lGdnZ2d@bt.com...
> <snip stupid ****>
>
> TIA
>

You wish!

*****wit* first class and bar!

[Beauregard T. Shagnasty]

~BD~ wrote:

> It really doesn't have to be that way.
>
> Can we not start over?

No, because you will never change.

> My motives are genuine. I simply don't like 'bad guys'! ;-)

Your prime motive is to annoy everyone else using Usenet.

--
-bts
-In a broadband world, you are just a dialup

[~BD~]

Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
> ~BD~ wrote:
>
>> It really doesn't have to be that way.
>>
>> Can we not start over?
>
> No, because you will never change.
>
>> My motives are genuine. I simply don't like 'bad guys'! ;-)
>
> Your prime motive is to annoy everyone else using Usenet.
>

May God Bless you, Bts.

I hope you feel good about yourself in the morning!