Re: What's so special about a single word?

[~BD~]

FromTheRafters wrote:
> "~BD~"<~BD~@nomail.afraid.org> wrote in message
> news:yPednYdgGaVQpDPRnZ2dnUVZ8hidnZ2d@bt.com...
>
> If you want to add a crosspost, do it yourself - please do not attempt
> to make it look like *I* added it.
>
> I resent your use of "Followup-to:" to make me look like a troll.

Your comment concerns me.

Again, I do not understand what you are inferring. AFAICR, the only
times I've attempted to use "Follow-up" is when posting from Google
Groups (when my posting name is BoaterDave in full). I've not explored
how to do so in SeaMonkey - although I do sometimes add another
newsgroup in my address bar before I post.

When I did do so, RonNNN chastised me for my action, so I avoid using
the facility.

I had/have no wish or desire to make you look like a troll, FTR.

You will have to explain in more detail if you want me to recognise what
you are annoyed about. Regardless, I'm sorry if I have unwittingly upset
you.

[FromTheRafters]

"~BD~" <~BD~@nomail.afraid.org> wrote in message
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> FromTheRafters wrote:
>> "~BD~"<~BD~@nomail.afraid.org> wrote in message
>> news:yPednYdgGaVQpDPRnZ2dnUVZ8hidnZ2d@bt.com...
>>
>> If you want to add a crosspost, do it yourself - please do not
>> attempt
>> to make it look like *I* added it.
>>
>> I resent your use of "Followup-to:" to make me look like a troll.
>
> Your comment concerns me.
>
> Again, I do not understand what you are inferring.

I imply, you infer. )

> AFAICR, the only times I've attempted to use "Follow-up" is when
> posting from Google Groups (when my posting name is BoaterDave in
> full). I've not explored how to do so in SeaMonkey - although I do
> sometimes add another newsgroup in my address bar before I post.

It was, indeed, the BoaterDave nym.

> When I did do so, RonNNN chastised me for my action, so I avoid using
> the facility.

So, should I believe that you *accidently* added a.p.s. newsgroup?

What, your finger slipped? )

> I had/have no wish or desire to make you look like a troll, FTR.
>
> You will have to explain in more detail if you want me to recognise
> what you are annoyed about. Regardless, I'm sorry if I have
> unwittingly upset you.

If you look at the thread, and try to determine who initiated the
"unnecessary" crosspost to "alt.privacy.spyware" it will appear to the
uninitiated that it was *I* that did so. Those that understand how
Usenet works *can* investigate further to see the post I was responding
to had the line "Followup-To: alt.politics.scorched-earth,
alt.privacy.spyware" in the header.

If you want to act like a troll, that is your prerogative. To add the
crosspost in a manner that makes someone else look like a troll is also
your prerogative, but I would hope that you wouldn't want to discourage
*me* from continuing to engage you in conversation, as I have been
generally civil towards you despite the fact that people I trust, wish
that I would not respond to you at all, ever.

[~BD~]

FromTheRafters wrote:
> "~BD~"<~BD~@nomail.afraid.org> wrote in message
> news:eZGdnUIuJ6XjIjPRnZ2dnUVZ8kadnZ2d@bt.com...
>> FromTheRafters wrote:
>>> "~BD~"<~BD~@nomail.afraid.org> wrote in message
>>> news:yPednYdgGaVQpDPRnZ2dnUVZ8hidnZ2d@bt.com...
>>>
>>> If you want to add a crosspost, do it yourself - please do not
>>> attempt
>>> to make it look like *I* added it.
>>>
>>> I resent your use of "Followup-to:" to make me look like a troll.
>>
>> Your comment concerns me.
>>
>> Again, I do not understand what you are inferring.
>
> I imply, you infer. )

Oh Sh*t!

>> AFAICR, the only times I've attempted to use "Follow-up" is when
>> posting from Google Groups (when my posting name is BoaterDave in
>> full). I've not explored how to do so in SeaMonkey - although I do
>> sometimes add another newsgroup in my address bar before I post.
>
> It was, indeed, the BoaterDave nym.
>
>> When I did do so, RonNNN chastised me for my action, so I avoid using
>> the facility.
>
> So, should I believe that you *accidently* added a.p.s. newsgroup?
>
> What, your finger slipped? )

Hahaha! No, no accident. I *should have said *usually* avoid. You *must*
know by now that *everything* I do on-line is deliberate (but sometimes
I do not appreciate the consequences of my actions!)

I wanted Peter Foldes to explain himself in front of those folk who
would recognise that he was lying (without him noticing). It appears
that I was successful!

>> I had/have no wish or desire to make you look like a troll, FTR.

I'll say that again. I did *not* intend that you, FTR, should appear to
be a troll. When I reviewed the result in SeaMonkey, the post did appear
somewhat odd, but I didn't realise why. This is how it looked here:
http://i52.tinypic.com/iwhm2r.jpg

>> You will have to explain in more detail if you want me to recognise
>> what you are annoyed about. Regardless, I'm sorry if I have
>> unwittingly upset you.
>
> If you look at the thread, and try to determine who initiated the
> "unnecessary" crosspost to "alt.privacy.spyware" it will appear to the
> uninitiated that it was *I* that did so. Those that understand how
> Usenet works *can* investigate further to see the post I was responding
> to had the line "Followup-To: alt.politics.scorched-earth,
> alt.privacy.spyware" in the header.

I've got it!

From: BoaterDave <BoaterDave@hotmail.co.uk>
Newsgroups: alt.politics.scorched-earth
Subject: Re: What's so special about a single word?
Followup-To: alt.politics.scorched-earth, alt.privacy.spyware
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 09:05:42 -0700 (PDT)
Organization: http://groups.google.com
Lines: 22
Message-ID:
<639f4899-1314-47ca-86b8-a7c55883f375@30g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>

> If you want to act like a troll, that is your prerogative. To add the
> crosspost in a manner that makes someone else look like a troll is also
> your prerogative, but I would hope that you wouldn't want to discourage
> *me* from continuing to engage you in conversation, as I have been
> generally civil towards you despite the fact that people I trust, wish
> that I would not respond to you at all, ever.

I apologise for doing something which appeared to put you at fault. I'm
sorry. It really wasn't intended to be that way.

You have been extremely helpful to me over the years and I do *not* want
to discourage you from engaging in conversation! I know you pull my leg
from time-to-time, but that's part of the fun of participating in
newsgroups!

[FromTheRafters]

"~BD~" <~BD~@nomail.afraid.org> wrote in message
news:Zq-dndhRzplmkjLRnZ2dnUVZ8qudnZ2d@bt.com...
> FromTheRafters wrote:
>> "~BD~"<~BD~@nomail.afraid.org> wrote in message
>> news:eZGdnUIuJ6XjIjPRnZ2dnUVZ8kadnZ2d@bt.com...
>>> FromTheRafters wrote:
>>>> "~BD~"<~BD~@nomail.afraid.org> wrote in message
>>>> news:yPednYdgGaVQpDPRnZ2dnUVZ8hidnZ2d@bt.com...
>>>>
>>>> If you want to add a crosspost, do it yourself - please do not
>>>> attempt
>>>> to make it look like *I* added it.
>>>>
>>>> I resent your use of "Followup-to:" to make me look like a troll.
>>>
>>> Your comment concerns me.
>>>
>>> Again, I do not understand what you are inferring.
>>
>> I imply, you infer. )
>
> Oh Sh*t!
>
>>> AFAICR, the only times I've attempted to use "Follow-up" is when
>>> posting from Google Groups (when my posting name is BoaterDave in
>>> full). I've not explored how to do so in SeaMonkey - although I do
>>> sometimes add another newsgroup in my address bar before I post.
>>
>> It was, indeed, the BoaterDave nym.
>>
>>> When I did do so, RonNNN chastised me for my action, so I avoid
>>> using
>>> the facility.
>>
>> So, should I believe that you *accidently* added a.p.s. newsgroup?
>>
>> What, your finger slipped? )
>
> Hahaha! No, no accident. I *should have said *usually* avoid. You
> *must* know by now that *everything* I do on-line is deliberate (but
> sometimes I do not appreciate the consequences of my actions!)
>
> I wanted Peter Foldes to explain himself in front of those folk who
> would recognise that he was lying (without him noticing). It appears
> that I was successful!
>
>>> I had/have no wish or desire to make you look like a troll, FTR.
>
> I'll say that again. I did *not* intend that you, FTR, should appear
> to be a troll. When I reviewed the result in SeaMonkey, the post did
> appear somewhat odd, but I didn't realise why. This is how it looked
> here: http://i52.tinypic.com/iwhm2r.jpg

Okay, so that might have misled you - once again, the benefit of the
doubt goes to you, but I realize that Peter may not have been expecting
*me* to add a crosspost, and that you were "using me" to perhaps trick
him.

Here, the followup-to is obvious:

http://hostphotofree.com/?bookmark=13789

....but my preview pane doesn't display that:

http://hostphotofree.com/?bookmark=13790

>>> You will have to explain in more detail if you want me to recognise
>>> what you are annoyed about. Regardless, I'm sorry if I have
>>> unwittingly upset you.
>>
>> If you look at the thread, and try to determine who initiated the
>> "unnecessary" crosspost to "alt.privacy.spyware" it will appear to
>> the
>> uninitiated that it was *I* that did so. Those that understand how
>> Usenet works *can* investigate further to see the post I was
>> responding
>> to had the line "Followup-To: alt.politics.scorched-earth,
>> alt.privacy.spyware" in the header.
>
> I've got it!
>
> From: BoaterDave <BoaterDave@hotmail.co.uk>
> Newsgroups: alt.politics.scorched-earth
> Subject: Re: What's so special about a single word?
> Followup-To: alt.politics.scorched-earth, alt.privacy.spyware
> Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 09:05:42 -0700 (PDT)
> Organization: http://groups.google.com
> Lines: 22
> Message-ID:
> <639f4899-1314-47ca-86b8-a7c55883f375@30g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>

Headers are one thing, but how a client interprets them and reacts to
them varies.

>> If you want to act like a troll, that is your prerogative. To add the
>> crosspost in a manner that makes someone else look like a troll is
>> also
>> your prerogative, but I would hope that you wouldn't want to
>> discourage
>> *me* from continuing to engage you in conversation, as I have been
>> generally civil towards you despite the fact that people I trust,
>> wish
>> that I would not respond to you at all, ever.
>
> I apologise for doing something which appeared to put you at fault.
> I'm sorry. It really wasn't intended to be that way.

I accept your apology, and want to note that I have nothing against the
good people in a.p.s. (even the ones with the shiny hats).

> You have been extremely helpful to me over the years and I do *not*
> want to discourage you from engaging in conversation! I know you pull
> my leg from time-to-time, but that's part of the fun of participating
> in newsgroups!

*Nobody* is safe from a little leg pulling. D

[~BD~]

FromTheRafters wrote:
> "~BD~"<~BD~@nomail.afraid.org> wrote in message
> news:Zq-dndhRzplmkjLRnZ2dnUVZ8qudnZ2d@bt.com...
[...]
>>> So, should I believe that you *accidently* added a.p.s. newsgroup?
>>>
>>> What, your finger slipped? )
>>
>> Hahaha! No, no accident. I *should have said *usually* avoid. You
>> *must* know by now that *everything* I do on-line is deliberate (but
>> sometimes I do not appreciate the consequences of my actions!)
>>
>> I wanted Peter Foldes to explain himself in front of those folk who
>> would recognise that he was lying (without him noticing). It appears
>> that I was successful!
>>
>>>> I had/have no wish or desire to make you look like a troll, FTR.
>>
>> I'll say that again. I did *not* intend that you, FTR, should appear
>> to be a troll. When I reviewed the result in SeaMonkey, the post did
>> appear somewhat odd, but I didn't realise why. This is how it looked
>> here: http://i52.tinypic.com/iwhm2r.jpg
>
> Okay, so that might have misled you - once again, the benefit of the
> doubt goes to you, but I realize that Peter may not have been expecting
> *me* to add a crosspost, and that you were "using me" to perhaps trick
> him.

No trick intended. 'Using you' had never crossed my mind.

> Here, the followup-to is obvious:
>
> http://hostphotofree.com/?bookmark=13789
>
> ...but my preview pane doesn't display that:
>
> http://hostphotofree.com/?bookmark=13790

I've got a problem here - they look like identical images to me.

>>>> You will have to explain in more detail if you want me to recognise
>>>> what you are annoyed about. Regardless, I'm sorry if I have
>>>> unwittingly upset you.
>>>
>>> If you look at the thread, and try to determine who initiated the
>>> "unnecessary" crosspost to "alt.privacy.spyware" it will appear to
>>> the
>>> uninitiated that it was *I* that did so. Those that understand how
>>> Usenet works *can* investigate further to see the post I was
>>> responding
>>> to had the line "Followup-To: alt.politics.scorched-earth,
>>> alt.privacy.spyware" in the header.
>>
>> I've got it!
>>
>> From: BoaterDave<BoaterDave@hotmail.co.uk>
>> Newsgroups: alt.politics.scorched-earth
>> Subject: Re: What's so special about a single word?
>> Followup-To: alt.politics.scorched-earth, alt.privacy.spyware
>> Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 09:05:42 -0700 (PDT)
>> Organization: http://groups.google.com
>> Lines: 22
>> Message-ID:
>> <639f4899-1314-47ca-86b8-a7c55883f375@30g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>
>
> Headers are one thing, but how a client interprets them and reacts to
> them varies.

I once thought they told the truth. I now know that they can be easily
manipulated by those who wish to do so. I didn't know anything about
headers until 5 years ago!

>>> If you want to act like a troll, that is your prerogative. To add the
>>> crosspost in a manner that makes someone else look like a troll is
>>> also
>>> your prerogative, but I would hope that you wouldn't want to
>>> discourage
>>> *me* from continuing to engage you in conversation, as I have been
>>> generally civil towards you despite the fact that people I trust,
>>> wish
>>> that I would not respond to you at all, ever.
>>
>> I apologise for doing something which appeared to put you at fault.
>> I'm sorry. It really wasn't intended to be that way.
>
> I accept your apology,

Thank you. It is sincere.

> and want to note that I have nothing against the
> good people in a.p.s. (even the ones with the shiny hats).
>
>> You have been extremely helpful to me over the years and I do *not*
>> want to discourage you from engaging in conversation! I know you pull
>> my leg from time-to-time, but that's part of the fun of participating
>> in newsgroups!
>
> *Nobody* is safe from a little leg pulling. D

Of course not! Apart from the very serious undertone of scorched-earth,
90% of posts should be about fun and entertainment. In 'aps' I hope that
the technical guys can keep me on a reasonable path!

[FromTheRafters]

"~BD~" <~BD~@nomail.afraid.org> wrote in message
news:AcSdnZHWiNfOsjLRnZ2dnUVZ7s6dnZ2d@bt.com...
> FromTheRafters wrote:

[...]

>> Okay, so that might have misled you - once again, the benefit of the
>> doubt goes to you, but I realize that Peter may not have been
>> expecting
>> *me* to add a crosspost, and that you were "using me" to perhaps
>> trick
>> him.
>
> No trick intended. 'Using you' had never crossed my mind.
>
>> Here, the followup-to is obvious:
>>
>> http://hostphotofree.com/?bookmark=13789
>>
>> ...but my preview pane doesn't display that:
>>
>> http://hostphotofree.com/?bookmark=13790
>
> I've got a problem here - they look like identical images to me.

For some reason, the second image I uploaded, replaced the first (same
name was used).

This should have been the first:

http://hostphotofree.com/?bookmark=13795

....that is, if it works this time; hostphotofree.com has its quirks, it
wouldn;t accept my PNG file even though it says it should, and now has
my second upload replace my first apparently because of the non-unique
name.

[...]

[~BD~]

FromTheRafters wrote:
> "~BD~"<~BD~@nomail.afraid.org> wrote in message
> news:AcSdnZHWiNfOsjLRnZ2dnUVZ7s6dnZ2d@bt.com...
>> FromTheRafters wrote:
>
> [...]
>
>>> Okay, so that might have misled you - once again, the benefit of the
>>> doubt goes to you, but I realize that Peter may not have been
>>> expecting
>>> *me* to add a crosspost, and that you were "using me" to perhaps
>>> trick
>>> him.
>>
>> No trick intended. 'Using you' had never crossed my mind.
>>
>>> Here, the followup-to is obvious:
>>>
>>> http://hostphotofree.com/?bookmark=13789
>>>
>>> ...but my preview pane doesn't display that:
>>>
>>> http://hostphotofree.com/?bookmark=13790
>>
>> I've got a problem here - they look like identical images to me.
>
> For some reason, the second image I uploaded, replaced the first (same
> name was used).
>
> This should have been the first:
>
> http://hostphotofree.com/?bookmark=13795
>
> ...that is, if it works this time; hostphotofree.com has its quirks, it
> wouldn;t accept my PNG file even though it says it should, and now has
> my second upload replace my first apparently because of the non-unique
> name.
>
> [...]
>
>

Do you see what you intended me to see now? At first sight all images
look the same here.

[What's in a Name?]

FromTheRafters wrote:

> So, should I believe that you *accidently* added a.p.s. newsgroup?
>
> What, your finger slipped? )

excerpt from Last Boy Scout (Bruce Willis)
lbs-accident.wav
http://new.wavlist.com/movies/137/index.html
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