The Cybercrime Blackmarket

[~BD~]

Marijuana. Cocaine. Heroin.
Assault rifles and illegal weapons.
Crime syndicates sitting around a smoky table in a dark room.

Do these Hollywood images of the black market fit the new Internet
underground? A look at a large bust led by the Secret Service, called
“Operation Firewall,” publicly revealed some of the first details of the
online black market and the people behind it. On October 26, 2004, 28
key members and ringleaders of the ShadowCrew, an online community of
cybercriminals, were arrested for facilitating an underground economy
where identity theft and exchange of stolen goods flourished.

The founders of the group included a part-time student in Scottsdale,
Arizona and a former mortgage broker from Linwood, New Jersey. The group
seamlessly crossed international boundaries as well. The ShadowCrew
boasted more than 4,000 members worldwide who launched millions of
phishing messages, hacked company networks, and then bought and sold the
stolen goods in their own online auction, complete with confidence
ratings and reviews.

What does the Internet black market look like today after the high
profile busts of the ShadowCrew and other cybercriminals in Operation
Firewall? The online underworld is constantly shifting. Symantec
performed a brief investigation of several online fraud communities to
answer this and other questions raised by this quickly evolving breed of
cybercriminal.

Read on! http://www.symantec.com/norton/cyber...lackmarket.jsp

[StevieO]

"~BD~" <~BD~@nomail.afraid.org> wrote in message
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[~BD~]

[Dustin]

~BD~ <~BD~@nomail.afraid.org> wrote in
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<SNIP SPAM>

Jerk.


--
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your Christ." - author unknown.

[~BD~]

Dustin wrote:
> ~BD~<~BD~@nomail.afraid.org> wrote in
> news:uIOdndrYwoQc7gnRnZ2dnUVZ8qKdnZ2d@bt.com:
>
> <SNIP>
>
> Jerk.

Why make such an inane remark? <shakes head>

I get the feeling that what's happening on-line nowadays has completely
passed you by. You seem to have no comprehension that banks are losing
$$$$Billions covering up the scale of current fraud and are fearful of
the public becoming aware of this.

What *you* did 10+ years ago, Dustin, pales into total insignificance
compared to what is happening in 2010! You should have read that article
on Cybercrime time and time again until you absorbed the truth!

[Peter Foldes]

BD

You are not just a jerk but a complete ignoramus. You have no idea what is
Cybercrime. What you describe as Cybercrime is actually not what you think. Open
your horizons and educate yourself before making stupid posts as you are doing

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"~BD~" <~BD~@nomail.afraid.org> wrote in message
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> Dustin wrote:
>> ~BD~<~BD~@nomail.afraid.org> wrote in
>> news:uIOdndrYwoQc7gnRnZ2dnUVZ8qKdnZ2d@bt.com:
>>
>> <SNIP>
>>
>> Jerk.
>
> Why make such an inane remark? <shakes head>
>
> I get the feeling that what's happening on-line nowadays has completely passed you
> by. You seem to have no comprehension that banks are losing $$$$Billions covering
> up the scale of current fraud and are fearful of the public becoming aware of
> this.
>
> What *you* did 10+ years ago, Dustin, pales into total insignificance compared to
> what is happening in 2010! You should have read that article on Cybercrime time
> and time again until you absorbed the truth!

[~BD~]

Peter Foldes wrote:
> BD
>
> You are not just a jerk but a complete ignoramus. You have no idea what
> is Cybercrime. What you describe as Cybercrime is actually not what you
> think. Open your horizons and educate yourself before making stupid
> posts as you are doing
>

You've lost me again! Stealing money on-line *is* crime - CyberCrime!

I'm open and willing to listen to *your* explanation though.

The stage is yours. Proceed.

[Dustin]

~BD~ <~BD~@nomail.afraid.org> wrote in
news:z7ednQII_MVOvgjRnZ2dnUVZ8vmdnZ2d@bt.com:

> Peter Foldes wrote:
>> BD
>>
>> You are not just a jerk but a complete ignoramus. You have no idea
>> what is Cybercrime. What you describe as Cybercrime is actually not
>> what you think. Open your horizons and educate yourself before
>> making stupid posts as you are doing
>>
>
> You've lost me again! Stealing money on-line *is* crime -
> CyberCrime!

And it's nothing new. What I suspect is actually new is the amount of
people willing to come forward and report it. It can be rather
embarrasing in some cases.

> I'm open and willing to listen to *your* explanation though.

I wish that was actually true, but it isn't. In a few months time, at
most, you'll be back asking the same things you're asking now.

--
"I like your Christ. I don't like your Christians. They are so unlike
your Christ." - author unknown.

[Aardvark]

On Sat, 18 Sep 2010 14:06:21 -0400, Peter Foldes wrote:

> You are not just a jerk but a complete ignoramus.

Nice PKB, ****ferbrainz.



--
The rocket bombs which fell daily on London were probably fired by
the Government of Oceania itself, ’just to keep people frightened’.
This was an idea that had literally never occurred to him.
--- George Orwell, 1984

[Dustin]

~BD~ <~BD~@nomail.afraid.org> wrote in
news:dbudnYoTjvpZfwnRnZ2dnUVZ8uidnZ2d@bt.com:

> I get the feeling that what's happening on-line nowadays has
> completely passed you by. You seem to have no comprehension that
> banks are losing $$$$Billions covering up the scale of current fraud
> and are fearful of the public becoming aware of this.

Your mistaken. As usual. You forget, sir; I'm still an active malware
reseacher, despite now being independent. Nothing has changed in so far
as my security clearances on various sites which discuss malware and
provide 0day samples to trustworthy individuals for analysis and
possible inclusion into various software.

What *you* don't seem to understand is that this cybercrime stuff has
been going on for years! *and* the typical programs responsible aren't
usually as complicated as an actual virus. Ie: you can usually delete
the executable, some registry keys and finish it off by removing the
folder it lives in. A virus OTH, isn't going anyplace that easily as it
literally resides *inside* *your* executables. When you run them, it
runs too.

I haven't lost my edge BD, I still know malware like the back of my
hand. I'm still the technician I was when I worked for a local computer
shop here.

It's *you* who is playing catchup; I've been aware of the cybercrime
issues for nearly 2 decades or so now.

> What *you* did 10+ years ago, Dustin, pales into total
> insignificance compared to what is happening in 2010! You should
> have read that article on Cybercrime time and time again until you
> absorbed the truth!

BD, I was writing viruses; not trojans 10 years ago. While they share
some similarity in so far as possible payloads, it ends there.

It was a personal choice for me to not steal/encrypt personal data. I
easily *could* have done both if I wanted to. It doesn't take much more
code in the payload section. However, even 10 years ago, a few viruses
did exist which would either try to steal personal data or encrypt
various personal files.

I don't easily confuse marketing hype with an actual "news alert" tho
BD. As I said, I still have access to the newest of the newest malware
going around.

I asked you not to try and talk down to me. Malware is a subject I know
well; you can't school me in this BD. You're just going to continue
looking like an idiot if you try further.

--
"I like your Christ. I don't like your Christians. They are so unlike
your Christ." - author unknown.