IP address recognition

[~BD~]

If there's anyone here still willing to 'talk' to me, I'd like to know
if you can determine my IP address simply by virtue of me posting a
message here on this newsgroup.

Answers will be appreciated.

Dave

[Bit Twister]

On Fri, 17 Sep 2010 21:48:06 +0100, ~BD~ wrote:
> If there's anyone here still willing to 'talk' to me, I'd like to know
> if you can determine my IP address simply by virtue of me posting a
> message here on this newsgroup.

Well look through your header and see if you can determine if you can
see it. Your header follows;


Path: eternal-september.org!mx03.eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!feeder.erje.net!xlned.com!
NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 15:48:06 -0500
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 21:48:06 +0100
From: ~BD~ <~BD~@nomail.afraid.org>
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.1.13) Gecko/20100914 SeaMonkey/2.0.8
MIME-Version: 1.0
Newsgroups: alt.privacy.spyware
Subject: IP address recognition
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID: <ecGdnQDgxtGbSQ7RnZ2dnUVZ8ridnZ2d@bt.com>
Lines: 7
X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com
X-AuthenticatedUsername: NoAuthUser
X-Trace: sv3-PjOzvk1siYCoL4Iz/I3ylMHuNWn/+GKC3TV5YJIsvI0yeyPGBbY3upKtXM5l5h4ayFu4f/UEb3uXEyV!0mBCknk6prhuurywH
X-Complaints-To: abuse@btinternet.com
X-DMCA-Complaints-To: abuse@btinternet.com
X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers
X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly
X-Postfilter: 1.3.40
Xref: feeder.eternal-september.org alt.privacy.spyware:6313


PS: Your news server you posted through can get your ip addy from the
X-Trace line. :-)

[~BD~]

Bit Twister wrote:
> On Fri, 17 Sep 2010 21:48:06 +0100, ~BD~ wrote:
>> If there's anyone here still willing to 'talk' to me, I'd like to know
>> if you can determine my IP address simply by virtue of me posting a
>> message here on this newsgroup.
>
> Well look through your header and see if you can determine if you can
> see it. Your header follows;

> X-Trace: sv3-PjOzvk1siYCoL4Iz/I3ylMHuNWn/+GKC3TV5YJIsvI0yeyPGBbY3upKtXM5l5h4ayFu4f/UEb3uXEyV!0mBCknk6prhuurywH

Thank you, 'Bit Twister'

Personally, I can see *no* IP address in standard form. However .....

You will note that 'Peter Foldes' says he *can* determine same from the
X-Trace - but, is he telling the truth?

Cross-posted to 24hoursupport.helpdesk to reach additional expertise.

BD

[Peter Foldes]

Yes you can find the IP address for your Mac and Desktop and your IP location. See
below

X-Trace:
sv3-JoYXe3e/HIU62Zoavllx49fPIVIAGbtYwsdkfe1eAAmdt9OHt2MvPJys9h 6xa0yQj7IV83Ia47776sw!gQ6tdVc3UE1zX51mZHmU4mhXaHbb rN8YSN9UimfQo7KEXX/P1QknySWjjh0zzYit6KEwVgKauih0


BTW: Yes I am able to do what I posted


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"~BD~" <~BD~@nomail.afraid.org> wrote in message
news:ecGdnQDgxtGbSQ7RnZ2dnUVZ8ridnZ2d@bt.com...
> If there's anyone here still willing to 'talk' to me, I'd like to know if you can
> determine my IP address simply by virtue of me posting a message here on this
> newsgroup.
>
> Answers will be appreciated.
>
> Dave

[Mike Easter]

~BD~ wrote:
> If there's anyone here still willing to 'talk' to me, I'd like to know
> if you can determine my IP address simply by virtue of me posting a
> message here on this newsgroup.
>
> Answers will be appreciated.

What is known:

- news.btinternet.com = europe.isp.giganews.com; that is giga 'NSPs'
for BT
- abuse is at abuse@bt.com
- PF lies a lot to BD who believes him a lot/excessively

What is knowable (by btinternet and giganews and unknown others):

- the (exact nature of the) 'relationship' between btinternet.com and
giganews NSPs for handling bt abuse issues
- whether/which giga or bt 'enforces' abuse by bt clients on the giga
news server for BT - most likely it is giga
- (whoever is) the abuse enforcer (bt/giga) can decode/decrypt the
Xtrace into user/pass/IP/MID for id/ing abuse

Most likely conclusion/s:

- PF has pulled BD's chain yet again
- PF (already) knows a BD IP from other 'historical' information
elsewhere, just like we know PF's IP from other historical information,
not his current aioe headers


--
Mike Easter

[Peter Foldes]

"Mike Easter" <MikeE@ster.invalid> wrote in message
news:8fiak1F6olU1@mid.individual.net...
> ~BD~ wrote:

< snipped unneeded text >

> - whether/which giga or bt 'enforces' abuse by bt clients on the giga news server
> for BT - most likely it is giga
> - (whoever is) the abuse enforcer (bt/giga) can decode/decrypt the Xtrace into
> user/pass/IP/MID for id/ing abuse
>
> Most likely conclusion/s:
>
> - PF has pulled BD's chain yet again
> - PF (already) knows a BD IP from other 'historical' information elsewhere, just
> like we know PF's IP from other historical information, not his current aioe
> headers
>
>
> --
> Mike Easter

Mike
Hi. What you said is correct in a way but when you have access to the right
equipment and connections to it for using it, then it is easy to backtrack the
originator.
I thought something happened to you because you disappeared all of a sudden for a
while. I hope it is not your health

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[Mike Easter]

Peter Foldes wrote:

> I thought something happened to you because you disappeared all of a
> sudden for a while. I hope it is not your health

Two friends and I took an 800 mi/1200 km auto trip from southernmost
coastal California to Reno, Nevada north of Lake Tahoe with one night
layover near Santa Barbara, CA and one night stay in Reno for me.

One of the friends left from there to go camping at Cherry Lake in
Yosemite National Park for about 2 weeks, while the other is still in
Reno for a few days for the annual Reno Air Races.

There were about 3 days or so that I wasn't online - there was a lot of
nice scenery to drive thru' instead.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coast_Highway_(California)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central...y_(California)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sacrame...in_River_Delta
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reno,_NV
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Tahoe_National_Forest

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cherry_lake
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reno_Air_Races

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[Peter Foldes]

Mike
Jealous a bit. :-) It must have been enjoyable and educational. Great stuff.

Sorry but I thought something happened to you. Force a habit when on the Usenet a
continuous contributor disappears after a 2 week absence.

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"Mike Easter" <MikeE@ster.invalid> wrote in message
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> Peter Foldes wrote:
>
>> I thought something happened to you because you disappeared all of a sudden for a
>> while. I hope it is not your health
>
> Two friends and I took an 800 mi/1200 km auto trip from southernmost coastal
> California to Reno, Nevada north of Lake Tahoe with one night layover near Santa
> Barbara, CA and one night stay in Reno for me.
>
> One of the friends left from there to go camping at Cherry Lake in Yosemite
> National Park for about 2 weeks, while the other is still in Reno for a few days
> for the annual Reno Air Races.
>
> There were about 3 days or so that I wasn't online - there was a lot of nice
> scenery to drive thru' instead.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coast_Highway_(California)
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central...y_(California)
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sacrame...in_River_Delta
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reno,_NV
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Tahoe_National_Forest
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cherry_lake
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reno_Air_Races
>
> --
> Mike Easter

[~BD~]

Peter Foldes wrote:
>
> What you said is correct in a way but when you have access to the
> right equipment and connections to it for using it, then it is easy to
> backtrack the originator.

Maybe you'll now explain why *you* have access to "the right equipment"
as well as having a T3 connection to the Internet.

I'm sure many others will be 'all ears'!

[Peter Foldes]

David

Most hope so . They get tired from adding new names to their killfiles

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"Mike Easter" <MikeE@ster.invalid> wrote in message
news:8fiak1F6olU1@mid.individual.net...
> ~BD~ wrote:
>> If there's anyone here still willing to 'talk' to me, I'd like to know if you can
>> determine my IP address simply by virtue of me posting a message here on this
>> newsgroup.
>>
>> Answers will be appreciated.
>
> What is known:
>
> - news.btinternet.com = europe.isp.giganews.com; that is giga 'NSPs' for BT
> - abuse is at abuse@bt.com
> - PF lies a lot to BD who believes him a lot/excessively
>
> What is knowable (by btinternet and giganews and unknown others):
>
> - the (exact nature of the) 'relationship' between btinternet.com and giganews
> NSPs for handling bt abuse issues
> - whether/which giga or bt 'enforces' abuse by bt clients on the giga news server
> for BT - most likely it is giga
> - (whoever is) the abuse enforcer (bt/giga) can decode/decrypt the Xtrace into
> user/pass/IP/MID for id/ing abuse
>
> Most likely conclusion/s:
>
> - PF has pulled BD's chain yet again
> - PF (already) knows a BD IP from other 'historical' information elsewhere, just
> like we know PF's IP from other historical information, not his current aioe
> headers
>
>
> --
> Mike Easter