Re: A Google Groups conundrum

[~BD~]

Peter Foldes wrote:
>> Is this your way of apologising for the mistake *you* made, Peter?
>
> BTW. It is apologizing and not apologising (learn to spell David)
>
> Dave
>
> You see that you are a Troll. Apology for what. No error made? You are
> Trolling as is Jenn. It is amusing to read. :-)


Read here Mr Foldes:-

http://www.apple.com/why-mac/better-os/#viruses

Where Apple states ............

"With virtually no effort on your part, Mac OS X defends against viruses
and other malicious applications, or malware. For example, it thwarts
hackers through a technique called “sandboxing” — restricting what
actions programs can perform on your Mac, what files they can access,
and what other programs they can launch. Other automatic security
features include Library Randomization, which prevents malicious
commands from finding their targets, and Execute Disable, which protects
the memory in your Mac from attacks."


What - *exactly* - is it that you cannot understand?

Surely you aren't trying to tell me that the Apple web site is telling
readers lies, are you?

If so, you will have to justify your assertion!

--
Dave

[Peter Foldes]

Yeah right. They are going to admit wrong. Sales is the keyword. You are a dumb
Troll

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Peter

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"~BD~" <BoaterDave@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Peter Foldes wrote:
>>> Is this your way of apologising for the mistake *you* made, Peter?

[Quilljar]

Apologising is UK English, and therefore preferable to 'apologizing' which
is USA English !

Q

"~BD~" <BoaterDave@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Peter Foldes wrote:
>>> Is this your way of apologising for the mistake *you* made, Peter?
>>
>> BTW. It is apologizing and not apologising (learn to spell David)
>>
>> Dave
>>
>> You see that you are a Troll. Apology for what. No error made? You are
>> Trolling as is Jenn. It is amusing to read. :-)
>
>
> Read here Mr Foldes:-
>
> http://www.apple.com/why-mac/better-os/#viruses
>
> Where Apple states ............
>
> "With virtually no effort on your part, Mac OS X defends against viruses
> and other malicious applications, or malware. For example, it thwarts
> hackers through a technique called “sandboxing” — restricting what actions
> programs can perform on your Mac, what files they can access, and what
> other programs they can launch. Other automatic security features include
> Library Randomization, which prevents malicious commands from finding
> their targets, and Execute Disable, which protects the memory in your Mac
> from attacks."
>
>
> What - *exactly* - is it that you cannot understand?
>
> Surely you aren't trying to tell me that the Apple web site is telling
> readers lies, are you?
>
> If so, you will have to justify your assertion!
>
> --
> Dave

[~BD~]

On 24/08/2010 13:56, Peter Foldes wrote:
> Crossposting Troll. Why the need to crosspost? Tell us the reason behind
> this

I simply want more people to recognise that Peter Foldes is *not* what
he purports to be! As I've said before, "The truth *will* out"!

There are some good and honest folk who post on 'alt.privacy.spyware' -
some of whom do *not* consider my concerns about 'bad guys' are misplaced.

The involvement of more people tends to lead to more interesting
discussions too - that is in /my/ opinion, of course!

Maybe some will come and join us on Scorched-Earth .... in place of
those ex-Annexcafe posters who came here (to SE) originally ........
............ but who then left because they could not stand the heat! ;-)

HTH

--
Dave

[FromTheRafters]

"~BD~" <BoaterDave@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
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> http://www.apple.com/why-mac/better-os/#viruses
>
> Where Apple states ............
>
> "With virtually no effort on your part, Mac OS X defends
> against viruses and other malicious applications, or malware.

[...]

Marketing crap.

[...]


> What - *exactly* - is it that you cannot understand?

Why time slows down in intense gravity *and* high velocity - both of
which apply to a body closely approaching a black hole.

....how is it *ever* going to get there (as if there were actually a
there, there in the first place)?

> Surely you aren't trying to tell me that the Apple web site is telling
> readers lies, are you?

Why not? Their version of the truth seems incomplete to me. They seem to
think malware has to be something other than an application that the
user decided to execute, and that stolen computing power in a sandbox is
somehow of less value than stolen computing power outside a sandbox.

[...]

[FromTheRafters]

"~BD~" <BoaterDave@hotmail.co.uk.> wrote in message
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> On 24/08/2010 13:56, Peter Foldes wrote:
>> Crossposting Troll. Why the need to crosspost? Tell us the reason
>> behind
>> this
>
> I simply want more people to recognise that Peter Foldes is *not* what
> he purports to be! As I've said before, "The truth *will* out"!

You would be better off defending a position where you were not *wrong*
from the beginning.

I'm referring of course to the whole Apple Computer campaign pretending
that their systems don't get malware due to some technology that they
have implemented.

[~BD~]

On 24/08/2010 14:46, Quilljar wrote:

> Apologising is UK English, and therefore preferable to 'apologizing'
> which is USA English !
>
> Q


*Exactly* !!!!!!

Thanks for that 'Q'

[~BD~]

On 25/08/2010 02:25, FromTheRafters wrote:
> "~BD~"<BoaterDave@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
> newsvKdnSWv7ojnKO7RnZ2dnUVZ8tCdnZ2d@bt.com...
>
>> http://www.apple.com/why-mac/better-os/#viruses
>>
>> Where Apple states ............
>>
>> "With virtually no effort on your part, Mac OS X defends
>> against viruses and other malicious applications, or malware.
>
> [...]
>
> Marketing crap.
>
> [...]


I'd like you to explain which items on this web page are , as you call
it, "Marketing Crap"

http://www.apple.com/macosx/security/

There must, surely, be legislation in the USA which forbids a
corporation to publish incorrect or misleading information to the
population as a whole.

If something really *is* wrong, to which authority should such a matter
be reported?

--
Dave

[FromTheRafters]

"~BD~" <BoaterDave@hotmail.co.uk.> wrote in message
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> On 25/08/2010 02:25, FromTheRafters wrote:
>> "~BD~"<BoaterDave@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
>> newsvKdnSWv7ojnKO7RnZ2dnUVZ8tCdnZ2d@bt.com...
>>
>>> http://www.apple.com/why-mac/better-os/#viruses
>>>
>>> Where Apple states ............
>>>
>>> "With virtually no effort on your part, Mac OS X defends
>>> against viruses and other malicious applications, or malware.
>>
>> [...]
>>
>> Marketing crap.
>>
>> [...]
>
>
> I'd like you to explain which items on this web page are , as you call
> it, "Marketing Crap"

The first line sounds really reassuring, like this is all you need. It
isn't. The second line, most people will read as Macs don't get viruses.
I'm sure they realize that, but why should they remove that statement if
they don't have to (it is not incorrect as they have worded it). You can
believe whatever you want about the rest of it, it is all down to just
my opinion anyway, it looks to me like they concentrate on the malware
that exploits software flaws and installs itself as if that is the only
type of malware. Other items are listed and the reader probably assumes
that they are unique to the Mac OS. Where would *you* draw the line
between "misleading information" and the right of an advertiser to allow
readers to make their own (perhaps even wrong) assumptions?

> http://www.apple.com/macosx/security/
>
> There must, surely, be legislation in the USA which forbids a
> corporation to publish incorrect or misleading information to the
> population as a whole.

I remember hearing about the USA enacting "Truth in Advertising" laws
when I was younger.

....wondering what ever became of those... \

Oh, I remember "Happy Fun Ball". D

[~BD~]

On 25/08/2010 13:51, FromTheRafters wrote:
> "~BD~"<BoaterDave@hotmail.co.uk.> wrote in message
> news:l_2dnW1oYfEsRenRnZ2dnUVZ8uSdnZ2d@bt.com...
>> On 25/08/2010 02:25, FromTheRafters wrote:
>>> "~BD~"<BoaterDave@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
>>> newsvKdnSWv7ojnKO7RnZ2dnUVZ8tCdnZ2d@bt.com...
>>>
>>>> http://www.apple.com/why-mac/better-os/#viruses
>>>>
>>>> Where Apple states ............
>>>>
>>>> "With virtually no effort on your part, Mac OS X defends
>>>> against viruses and other malicious applications, or malware.
>>>
>>> [...]
>>>
>>> Marketing crap.
>>>
>>> [...]
>>
>>
>> I'd like you to explain which items on this web page are , as you call
>> it, "Marketing Crap"
>
> The first line sounds really reassuring, like this is all you need. It
> isn't.

You haven't explained "It isn't". More detail requested!

The second line, most people will read as Macs don't get viruses.
> I'm sure they realize that, but why should they remove that statement if
> they don't have to (it is not incorrect as they have worded it). You can
> believe whatever you want about the rest of it, it is all down to just
> my opinion anyway.

That's true, but I enjoy reading *your* opinions!

> It looks to me like they concentrate on the malware
> that exploits software flaws and installs itself as if that is the only
> type of malware. Other items are listed and the reader probably assumes
> that they are unique to the Mac OS. Where would *you* draw the line
> between "misleading information" and the right of an advertiser to allow
> readers to make their own (perhaps even wrong) assumptions?

FWIW, although I partially accept your premise, I don't consider
technical information issued by a major manufacture to be 'advertising'
per se. It *should* be factual and truthful.

>> http://www.apple.com/macosx/security/
>>
>> There must, surely, be legislation in the USA which forbids a
>> corporation to publish incorrect or misleading information to the
>> population as a whole.
>
> I remember hearing about the USA enacting "Truth in Advertising" laws
> when I was younger.
>
> ...wondering what ever became of those... \
>
> Oh, I remember "Happy Fun Ball". D

More need to investigate! That HFB rang no bells here.

But there's always a bright side - I found this .... and laughed out
loud! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3NrL...eature=related

Cheers!

Dave