Dave U. Random <anonymous@anonymitaet-im-inter.net> wrote in
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> (A super accurate portrait of Raid/Dustin Cook. Fits him perfectly.
> Even some of those who know him will be taken aback and rethink their
> association with him. He will eventually stab you in the back. It's a
> given. Every psychologist will tell you, get away from the sociopath.
> He is sick animal in pain and will strike out at the nearest target.
> They care for no one. No one is immune to their self-pitying rage.
> They're dangerous.)

But Sniffer? Get your Butt Sniffer here! Butt Sniffer!

Exactly when am I supposed to do something bad or otherwise malicious? At
what point, during college, did you wash out? Assuming you made it that
far; I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt here as you seem ...
stalkerishly interested in my psy makeup...

> Most people with a conscience find it very difficult to even imagine
> what it would be like to be without one. Combine this with a
> sociopath's efforts to blend in, and the result is that most
> sociopaths go undetected.

Do Sociopaths have animals? I have 3 cats, and I love all of them very
much; that's why I'm asking. Are Sociopaths cat people? I honestly
don't know, so....Aside from odd people i've encountered on usenet of all
places, the word sociopath and myself doesn't come up.

> Because they go undetected, they wreak havoc on their family, on
> people they work with, and on anyone who tries to be their friend. A
> sociopath deceives, takes what he (or she) wants, and hurts people
> without any remorse. Sociopaths don't feel guilty. They don't feel

Wow. These sociopaths sound pretty rotten to me. I haven't wreaked any
havoc that I know of on any family members. Unless, you feel buying them
car parts and paying some payments for them is in some way, wreaking
havoc? I thought it was being kind... My bad.

I must have done really bad when I bought my 1st nephew a 4wheeler. How
many hail maries should I say to attone for that dastardly deed?

Blend in you say? I'm a computer person, exactly how do we blend in..
well, anywhere?

> sorry for what they've done. They go through life taking what they
> want and giving nothing back. They manipulate and deceive and
> convincingly lie without the slightest second thought. They leave a
> path of confusion and upset in their wake.

If I went thru life taking what I wanted, I wouldn't be working for a
living. I'd be .. well, taking what I wanted. Duh! Sadly tho, real life
requires I work if I want things. What a bummer.

I left a path of confusion for stupid people regarding my handle Raid,
certainly. I have no idea why your so damn stupid, nor have any real hope
of helping you to cure any of your stupidity. I think, mebbe you were
born that way.

> Who are these people? Why are they the way they are? Apparently it has
> little to do with upbringing. Many studies have been done trying to
> find out what kind of childhood leads to sociopathy. So far, nothing
> looks likely. They could be from any kind of family. It is partly
> genetic, and partly mystery.

Wow. Well, when you find out who these dastardly sociopaths are; you be
sure and tell me ok? I wouldn't want one to sneak past me now.

> But researchers have found that the brains of sociopaths function
> differently than normal people. And their brains function in a way
> that makes their emotional life unredeemably shallow. And yet they are
> capable of mimicking emotions like professional actors.

Well, sadly for me, thanks to cat scans that I had to have done when I
got in a fight one day at school (and **** did I lose.. heheh), I have a
normal, boring everyday, human brain. I suspect those medical doctors
would have noticed something amiss if what you say had any sense of truth
to it.

I do have a term that I can almost prove you suffer from tho. False
authority syndrome. Basically it happens when a halfwit (like yourself)
tries to speak on a subject he or she knows next to nothing/very little
about amongst a group of individuals who do. It's funny to watch.

> Sociopaths don't have normal affection with other people. They don't
> feel attached to others. They don't feel love. And that is why they

Are you calling loners sociopaths now? I just want to be sure I am
understanding you.

> don't have a conscience. If you harmed someone, even someone you
> didn't know, you would feel guilt and remorse. Why? Because you have a
> natural affinity for other human beings. You know how it feels to
> suffer, to fear, to feel anguish. You care about others.

Yes, that I do. I'm sure many others understand what it is to suffer and
hurt and why you wouldn't want that on anyone else. of course I care
about others, why would I have given BugHunter to anyone if I didn't? It
was a modest effort on my part to attone for the bad things I did when I
wrote viruses.

> If you hurt someone you love, the guilt and remorse would be very bad
> because of your affection for him or her. Take that attachment and
> affection away and you take away remorse, guilt, and any kind of
> normal feelings of fairness. That's a sociopath.

False authority syndrome. Feel free to look it up. No wonder you don't
post with any real identity; People would be able to link the fool to an
individual, not some anonymous poster on a dieing format known as usenet.

Btw, you *still* owe me a thank you for the rolling stones article you
looked up and pasted here. You wouldn't have been able to read it (and
it's doubtful you'd even knew it existed) had I not done that, out of the
kindness of my heart; I shared that freely with you and everyone else.
And what do you do in return? Mock me? How... rude.

>
>
> HOW COMMON ARE THEY?
>
> Some researchers say only about one percent of the general population
> are sociopaths. Others put the figure at three or four percent. The
> reason the estimates vary is first of all, not everyone has been
> tested, of course, but also because sociopathy is a sliding scale. A
> person can be very sociopathic or only slightly, and anywhere in
> between. It is a continuum. So how sociopathic does someone have to be
> before you call them a sociopath? That's a tough question and it is
> why the estimates vary.
>
> But clearly sociopaths are fairly common and not easy to detect. Even
> when the evidence is staring you in the face, you may have difficulty
> admitting that someone you know, someone you trusted, even someone you
> love, is a sociopath. But the sooner you admit it, the faster your
> life can return to normal. Face the facts and you may save yourself a
> lot of suffering.
>
> Most of the information in this article is from two excellent books I
> strongly recommend: Without Conscience: The Disturbing World of the
> Psychopaths Among Us, and The Sociopath Next Door. The first book is
> by Robert Hare, who has made his career out of studying sociopaths. He
> is one of the leading, if not the leading expert on the subject. His
> insights and examples are compelling. But because Hare has done most
> of his research in prisons, sometimes his book seems a little removed
> from everyday reality. We don't very often run into rapists and
> cold-blooded killers. The second book, by Martha Stout, brings it to
> the everyday level, describing the kinds of people we are likely to
> meet in ordinary life.
>
>
>
> HOW TO KNOW
>
> The big question is, of course, how can you know whether someone is a
> sociopath or not? It is a difficult question and even experts on the
> subject can be fooled. If you suspect that someone close to you is a
> sociopath, I suggest you read both of the books I mentioned and think
> hard about it. Compare that person to the other people in your life.
> Ask yourself these questions:
>
> 1. Do you often feel used by the person?
>
> 2. Have you often felt that he (or she) doesn't care about you?
>
> 3. Does he lie and deceive you?
>
> 4. Does he tend to make contradictory statements?
>
> 5. Does he tend to take from you and not give back much?
>
> 6. Does he often appeal to pity? Does he seem to try to make you
> feel sorry for him?
>
> 7. Does he try to make you feel guilty?
>
> 8. Do you sometimes feel he is taking advantage of your good
> nature?
>
> 9. Does he seem easily bored and need constant stimulation?
>
> 10. Does he use a lot of flattery? Does he interact with you in a
> way that makes you feel flattered even if he says nothing overtly
> complimentary?
>
> 11. Does he make you feel worried? Does he do it obviously or more
> cleverly and sneakily?
>
> 12. Does he give you the impression you owe him?
>
> 13. Does he chronically fail to take responsibility for harming
> others? Does he blame everyone and everything but himself?
>
> And does he do these things far more than the other people in your
> life? If you answered "yes" to many of these, you may be dealing with
> a sociopath. For sure you're dealing with someone who isn't good for
> you, whatever you want to call him.
>
> I like Martha Stout's way of detecting sociopaths: "If ... you find
> yourself often pitying someone who consistently hurts you or other
> people, and who actively campaigns for your sympathy, the chances are
> close to one hundred percent that you are dealing with a sociopath."
>
>
>
> WHAT DO THEY WANT?
>
> This is an interesting question. Of course most of our purposes are
> strongly influenced by our connections and affections with others. Our
> relationships with others, and our love for them, give us most of the
> meaning in life. So if a sociopath doesn't have these things, what is
> left? What kind of purposes do they have?
>
> The answer is chilling: They want to win. Take away love and
> relationships and all you have left is winning the game, whatever the
> game is. If they are in business, it is becoming rich and defeating
> competitors. If it is sibling rivalry, it is defeating the sibling. If
> it is a contest, the goal is to dominate. If a sociopath is the
> envious sort, winning would be making the other lose, or fail, or be
> frustrated or embarrassed.
>
> A sociopath's goal is to win. And he is willing to do anything at all
> to win.
>
> Sociopaths have nothing else to think about, so they can be very
> clever and conniving. Sociopaths are not busy being concerned with
> relationships or moral dilemmas or conflicting feelings, so they have
> much more time to think about clever ways to gain your trust and stab
> you in the back, and how do it without anyone knowing what's
> happening.
>
> One of the questions in the list above was about boredom. This is a
> real problem for sociopaths and they seem fanatically driven to
> prevent boredom. The reason it looms so large for them (and seems so
> strange to us) is that our relationships with people occupy a good
> amount of our time and attention and interest us intensely. Take that
> away and all you have is "playing to win" which is rather shallow and
> empty in comparison. So boredom is a constant problem for sociopaths
> and they have an incessant urge to keep up a level of stimulation,
> even negative stimulation (drama, worry, upset, etc.).
>
> And here I might mention that the research shows sociopaths don't feel
> emotions the same way normal people do. For example, they don't
> experience fear as unpleasant. This goes a long way to explaining the
> inexplicable behavior you'll see in sociopaths. Some feelings that you
> and I might find intolerable might not bother them at all.
>
>
>
> HOW TO DEAL WITH A SOCIOPATH
>
> There is no known cure or therapy for sociopathy. In fact, some
> evidence suggests that therapy makes them worse because they use it to
> learn more about human vulnerabilities they can then exploit. They
> learn how to manipulate better and they learn better excuses that
> others will believe.
>
> Given all that, there is only one solution for dealing with a
> sociopath: Get him or her completely out of your life for good. This
> seems radical, and of course, you want to be fairly sure your
> diagnosis is correct, but you need to protect yourself from the drain
> on your time, attention, money, and good attitude. Healing or helping
> a sociopath is a pointless waste of your life. That is not your
> mission. It's not your responsibility. You have your own goals and
> your own life, and those are your responsibility.
>
> In Hare's book, he says before you diagnose someone as a sociopath, he
> recommends you get a full clinical diagnostic, including an extensive
> interview with the sociopath by a qualified psychotherapist, plus
> interviews with the sociopath's bosses, co-workers, friends, and
> family. Yeah, right. Good luck on that one. I agree, that would be
> ideal, but if you can get a sociopath to submit to an interview, I
> would be astonished. So you'll have to do the best you can with the
> information you can get.
>
> I don't recommend you tell anyone you have diagnosed him as a
> sociopath. In fact, I strongly urge you not to. I don't even know if
> it's a good idea to tell anyone about your conclusion. Just get the
> sociopath out of your life with as little fanfare as you can. The only
> exception I would make to this rule is if the sociopath is making
> someone else's life a living hell, it seems wrong to leave her to the
> wolves while you slink off. I don't recommend you try to convince your
> friend she is dealing with a sociopath. I recommend that you simply
> say you got a lot of insight from this or that book or whatever, and
> let your friend draw her own conclusions. It is not your mission to
> save your friend, either. Tell her what you know and if she ignores
> your warning, that's her problem, not yours. Because you said
> something, she may figure it out eventually.
>
> If this all sounds cold or heartless, maybe you're not dealing with a
> sociopath, or maybe she or he hasn't driven you to the point of
> madness (yet). But remember what the solution is; you may someday need
> it.
>
> And besides, the point of all this dismal information is so you no
> longer need to think about such negative things and so you can turn
> your attention to positive, life-affirming, uplifting goals of your
> own.
>
> You may also want to check out a support group for people who are in a
> relationship with a sociopath:
>
> LoveFraud.com
>
> Sociopathic Style
>
> Safe Relationships
>
>
> If you have a sociopath in your life, you should take it seriously.
> Learn what you need to learn, and if you are pretty sure you have
> correctly identified one, do what needs to be done to protect yourself
> and your non-sociopathic loved ones. Then get back to your own life.
> Accomplish your goals. Nurture your relationships. Learn and grow and
> enjoy yourself.
>
>
> Summary Of Sociopaths
>
> 1. They make you feel sorry for them.
>
> 2. They make you feel worried or afraid.
>
> 3. They give you the impression you owe them.
>
> 4. They make you feel used.
>
> 5. Sometimes you suspect they don't care about you.
>
> 6. They lie to you and deceive you.
>
> 7. They take a lot from you and give back very little.
>
> 8. They make you feel guilty (and use that to manipulate you).
>
> 9. They take advantage of your kindness.
>
> 10. They are easily bored and need constant stimulation.
>
> 11. They don't take responsibility but place blame elsewhere.
>
> The estimates given in the research on sociopaths is that one to four
> percent of the population is sociopathic. Now with this study, coming
> from an entirely different field, maybe we can be more specific and
> narrow it down to two percent. One in fifty. If you know more than
> fifty people, chances are you know a sociopath.
>
>



--
Dustin Cook (formally Raid/Slam) while responding to some moron
who's just learned to use google "raid": Alot of the stuff I posted
back then was bull****, tons and tons of misleading information present
in damn near every post. Idiots like you ate out of my hands, never
knowing what crazy thing I'd write up next. then you stupid psy wannabes
would come up, and try to determine what kind of person I could be. I
just had to see for myself, how gullible and downright stupid some
people could be. I'm surprised tho, nearly 11 years later to see another
stupid **** latch onto everything "Raid" said as if it was the gospel. -
Dustin Cook alt.comp.anti-virus