This group really sucks

[PajaP]

On Tue, 27 Apr 2010 16:16:09 GMT, Dustin Cook
<bughunter.dustin@gmail.com> wrote:

>I didn't threaten anyone with physical harm.

*****************
On Mon, 19 Apr 2010 19:39:19 GMT, Dustin Cook
<bughunter.dustin@gmail.com> wrote:
>If I ever was in ca for a visit or something and
>I met the sorry dude face to face, I have to be
>honest. I would most likely walk right up to the
>guy and start wailing on him. First, a quick
>punch to the throat (you can't breathe, you can't
>fight) followed up by a quick plink of his eyes
>(you can't see, you can't fight) and then a nice
>side knee kick.
>Followed by a few round kicks to his upper chest
>facial area.
>I'd probably even make him eat a printout of that
>horse pic he has. All of it. Hell, I might even
>find a horserance and make him be a star.
>By the time I was finished with him, no plastic
>surgeon in the world could make him look normal
>again. I'd probably break his fingers too, every
>single one of them.
>A thief deserves nothing but harsh treatment. The
>finger breaking is really to discourage further
>theft.
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So what is that ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^?
I know it is your little fantasy but it is still threats of physical
harm.

So have you ever stole anything in your life?
Ever copied a file (music, video or other) you should not have?

You might think that sort of treatment is fair reward for someone that
copies some lines of code. I think it would be more fitting a punishment
for a bully.

>And I stand by what I said, pcbutts is certainly
>on topic here.

No he is not. Keep telling yourself that though.
You will always be wrong.

>You can always ignore the posts.

I can always make my protest known about the OT posts too.

[Dustin Cook]

PajaP <pajap@news-only.co.uk.invalid> wrote in
news:jh4et5tcgtu9h4439gd6n8p27ofk4243nm@4ax.com:

> On Tue, 27 Apr 2010 16:16:09 GMT, Dustin Cook
> <bughunter.dustin@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>I didn't threaten anyone with physical harm.
>
> *****************
> On Mon, 19 Apr 2010 19:39:19 GMT, Dustin Cook
> <bughunter.dustin@gmail.com> wrote:
>>If I ever was in ca for a visit or something and
>>I met the sorry dude face to face, I have to be
>>honest. I would most likely walk right up to the
>>guy and start wailing on him. First, a quick
>>punch to the throat (you can't breathe, you can't
>>fight) followed up by a quick plink of his eyes
>>(you can't see, you can't fight) and then a nice
>>side knee kick.
>>Followed by a few round kicks to his upper chest
>>facial area.
>>I'd probably even make him eat a printout of that
>>horse pic he has. All of it. Hell, I might even
>>find a horserance and make him be a star.
>>By the time I was finished with him, no plastic
>>surgeon in the world could make him look normal
>>again. I'd probably break his fingers too, every
>>single one of them.
>>A thief deserves nothing but harsh treatment. The
>>finger breaking is really to discourage further
>>theft.
> *****************
>
> So what is that ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^?
> I know it is your little fantasy but it is still threats of physical
> harm.

Why don't you read it exactly for what it is?

> So have you ever stole anything in your life?

I stole a pack of gum once, when I was a kiddo; my mom made me give it
back to the store. hehe.

> Ever copied a file (music, video or other) you should not have?

Yep. Tons and tons of both. I'm kinda proud of my little archive. hehe.

> You might think that sort of treatment is fair reward for someone that
> copies some lines of code. I think it would be more fitting a

not just copies lines of code. Nope, he's a cyberbully (hahah.. damn, I
can't believe I'm typing that) too.

> No he is not. Keep telling yourself that though.

I will. Thanks.

> You will always be wrong.

Perhaps, to you.

>>You can always ignore the posts.
>
> I can always make my protest known about the OT posts too.

Well, then.. not much else to say ?




--
"Hrrngh! Someday I'm going to hurl this...er...roll this...hrrngh..
nudge this boulder right down a cliff." - Goblin Warrior

[PajaP]

On Tue, 27 Apr 2010 16:53:57 GMT, Dustin Cook
<bughunter.dustin@gmail.com> wrote:

>PajaP <pajap@news-only.co.uk.invalid> wrote in
>news:jh4et5tcgtu9h4439gd6n8p27ofk4243nm@4ax.com :
>
>> On Tue, 27 Apr 2010 16:16:09 GMT, Dustin Cook
>> <bughunter.dustin@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>I didn't threaten anyone with physical harm.
>>
>> *****************
>> On Mon, 19 Apr 2010 19:39:19 GMT, Dustin Cook
>> <bughunter.dustin@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>If I ever was in ca for a visit or something and
>>>I met the sorry dude face to face, I have to be
>>>honest. I would most likely walk right up to the
>>>guy and start wailing on him. First, a quick
>>>punch to the throat (you can't breathe, you can't
>>>fight) followed up by a quick plink of his eyes
>>>(you can't see, you can't fight) and then a nice
>>>side knee kick.
>>>Followed by a few round kicks to his upper chest
>>>facial area.
>>>I'd probably even make him eat a printout of that
>>>horse pic he has. All of it. Hell, I might even
>>>find a horserance and make him be a star.
>>>By the time I was finished with him, no plastic
>>>surgeon in the world could make him look normal
>>>again. I'd probably break his fingers too, every
>>>single one of them.
>>>A thief deserves nothing but harsh treatment. The
>>>finger breaking is really to discourage further
>>>theft.
>> *****************
>>
>> So what is that ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^?
>> I know it is your little fantasy but it is still threats of physical
>> harm.
>
>Why don't you read it exactly for what it is?

I did. You made threats of violence.
Then denied it.
If I ever met you I may have to call you a dirty lying coward and watch
you cry out for your mama (mama the man said bad things lets sue him).

[Dustin Cook]

PajaP <pajap@news-only.co.uk.invalid> wrote in
news:er5et5d6qi1t6gpcq37euf6ble9hoptlvm@4ax.com:

> On Tue, 27 Apr 2010 16:53:57 GMT, Dustin Cook
> <bughunter.dustin@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>PajaP <pajap@news-only.co.uk.invalid> wrote in
>>news:jh4et5tcgtu9h4439gd6n8p27ofk4243nm@4ax.co m:
>>
>>> On Tue, 27 Apr 2010 16:16:09 GMT, Dustin Cook
>>> <bughunter.dustin@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>I didn't threaten anyone with physical harm.
>>>
>>> *****************
>>> On Mon, 19 Apr 2010 19:39:19 GMT, Dustin Cook
>>> <bughunter.dustin@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>If I ever was in ca for a visit or something and
>>>>I met the sorry dude face to face, I have to be
>>>>honest. I would most likely walk right up to the
>>>>guy and start wailing on him. First, a quick
>>>>punch to the throat (you can't breathe, you can't
>>>>fight) followed up by a quick plink of his eyes
>>>>(you can't see, you can't fight) and then a nice
>>>>side knee kick.
>>>>Followed by a few round kicks to his upper chest
>>>>facial area.
>>>>I'd probably even make him eat a printout of that
>>>>horse pic he has. All of it. Hell, I might even
>>>>find a horserance and make him be a star.
>>>>By the time I was finished with him, no plastic
>>>>surgeon in the world could make him look normal
>>>>again. I'd probably break his fingers too, every
>>>>single one of them.
>>>>A thief deserves nothing but harsh treatment. The
>>>>finger breaking is really to discourage further
>>>>theft.
>>> *****************
>>>
>>> So what is that ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^?
>>> I know it is your little fantasy but it is still threats of physical
>>> harm.
>>
>>Why don't you read it exactly for what it is?
>
> I did. You made threats of violence.
> Then denied it.

I see... so basically, you see things that aren't there, and go from
there. I understand now, thanks.

> If I ever met you I may have to call you a dirty lying coward and watch
> you cry out for your mama (mama the man said bad things lets sue him).

Hey, if your ever in my neck of the woods; your welcome to come for a
visit. If you do talk **** to me face to face tho, don't expect me to
just stand there and not jump at your offer of a physical confrontation;
I'm more than capable of defending myself.

I don't need my mama, but you might need a ride from the ambulance when
were finished, "talking".



--
"Hrrngh! Someday I'm going to hurl this...er...roll this...hrrngh.. nudge
this boulder right down a cliff." - Goblin Warrior

[Dustin Cook]

Dustin Cook <bughunter.dustin@gmail.com> wrote in
news:Xns9D6795FCA9F64HHI2948AJD832@69.16.185.250:

> PajaP <pajap@news-only.co.uk.invalid> wrote in
> news:er5et5d6qi1t6gpcq37euf6ble9hoptlvm@4ax.com:
>
>> On Tue, 27 Apr 2010 16:53:57 GMT, Dustin Cook
>> <bughunter.dustin@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>PajaP <pajap@news-only.co.uk.invalid> wrote in
>>>news:jh4et5tcgtu9h4439gd6n8p27ofk4243nm@4ax.com :
>>>
>>>> On Tue, 27 Apr 2010 16:16:09 GMT, Dustin Cook
>>>> <bughunter.dustin@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>I didn't threaten anyone with physical harm.
>>>>
>>>> *****************
>>>> On Mon, 19 Apr 2010 19:39:19 GMT, Dustin Cook
>>>> <bughunter.dustin@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>If I ever was in ca for a visit or something and
>>>>>I met the sorry dude face to face, I have to be
>>>>>honest. I would most likely walk right up to the
>>>>>guy and start wailing on him. First, a quick
>>>>>punch to the throat (you can't breathe, you can't
>>>>>fight) followed up by a quick plink of his eyes
>>>>>(you can't see, you can't fight) and then a nice
>>>>>side knee kick.
>>>>>Followed by a few round kicks to his upper chest
>>>>>facial area.
>>>>>I'd probably even make him eat a printout of that
>>>>>horse pic he has. All of it. Hell, I might even
>>>>>find a horserance and make him be a star.
>>>>>By the time I was finished with him, no plastic
>>>>>surgeon in the world could make him look normal
>>>>>again. I'd probably break his fingers too, every
>>>>>single one of them.
>>>>>A thief deserves nothing but harsh treatment. The
>>>>>finger breaking is really to discourage further
>>>>>theft.
>>>> *****************
>>>>
>>>> So what is that ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^?
>>>> I know it is your little fantasy but it is still threats of
>>>> physical harm.
>>>
>>>Why don't you read it exactly for what it is?
>>
>> I did. You made threats of violence.
>> Then denied it.
>
> I see... so basically, you see things that aren't there, and go from
> there. I understand now, thanks.
>
>> If I ever met you I may have to call you a dirty lying coward and
>> watch you cry out for your mama (mama the man said bad things lets
>> sue him).
>
> Hey, if your ever in my neck of the woods; your welcome to come for a
> visit. If you do talk **** to me face to face tho, don't expect me to
> just stand there and not jump at your offer of a physical
> confrontation; I'm more than capable of defending myself.
>
> I don't need my mama, but you might need a ride from the ambulance
> when were finished, "talking".
>
>
>

But! we could always have a nice cup of coffee instead. I'm always up
for a civil discussion.


--
"Hrrngh! Someday I'm going to hurl this...er...roll this...hrrngh..
nudge this boulder right down a cliff." - Goblin Warrior

[PajaP]

On Tue, 27 Apr 2010 18:37:27 GMT, Dustin Cook
<bughunter.dustin@gmail.com> wrote:

>Hey, if your ever in my neck of the woods; your welcome to come for a
>visit. If you do talk **** to me face to face tho, don't expect me to
>just stand there and not jump at your offer of a physical confrontation;
>I'm more than capable of defending myself.
>
>I don't need my mama, but you might need a ride from the ambulance when
>were finished, "talking".

Big words. Little man.
I seriously doubt you are anywhere near the same league as me. But
continue with your fantasy.
Your physical threats of violence continue. A leopard cannot change its
spots.

[Stuart Saunders]

On Apr 27, 4:38*pm, PajaP <pa...@news-only.co.uk.invalid> wrote:
> On Tue, 27 Apr 2010 04:50:30 -0700 (PDT), Stuart Saunders
>
> <stuart...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> >Surely the exposure of a person who is actively involved in the
> >activities listed is topical and warrants discussion.
> >1) Distribution of software which disables security products.
> >2) Distribution of software which amends the host file to block access
> >to (mainly) security related websites.
> >3) Distributes a malware removal utility (promoted within these
> >groups) which risks a the stability of a users computer
> >4) Software/intellectual property theft
> >5) Fraudulent documents and perjury to hamper implementation of legal
> >procedures to stop the above
> >6) Lies and defamation towards those who expose him.
>
> It is gone beyond that.

I agree, it has, there is also –
7) Removal of copyright notices
8) Created and used Fraudulent copyright notices
9) Used the identity of another person (or created a new identity) to
issue a fraudulent DMCA notice to prevent a person who challenged him
from distributing legitimate software.
10) Use the domain register to conceal his real identity for the
purposes of violating laws and acceptable ethical standards.
11) Taken and used other peoples identity in an attempt conceal his
own.
12) Used registered trademarks of others.
13) Impersonated other posters to in an attempt to show them in bad
light.

In your criticism of those who oppose the use of these boards for such
activities you appear to supporting/advocating/defending the
perpetrators.

> You have a personal grievance with him

Yes I have, he has stolen my intellectual property and made damaging
claims against me, my intentions and reputation, I am quite sure that
if you were the target of such persistent actions, you would
eventually say something

> Take it to email.

If Butts had made the claims by email, I would have responded by email

> If a legal issue then make it so.

You clearly have no idea of the problems or cost of doing so,
particularly as we are in different countries. I have used the law as
far as I can, he has invoked actions to circumnavigate/hamper legal
enforcement, add the fact that costs/damages are not available to non –
U.S. citizens you may begin to realise that whilst there are laws out
there to prevent this stuff, in reality they are only available to
those with very deep pockets

> The same lines and scripted replies over and over (not talking about
> you, yet) are a bit boring.
> This group is now a joke. The only people you are warning is yourselves.
> The ones who are supposed to be warned must by now think the 'regulars'
> are all kooks. Anyone that disagrees with them is a troll or butts.

This post was never about warning people, it was started by a Butts
sock puppet.The reason I am here, the platform where he distributes my
intellectual property and made the claims, is to ask him to justify/
prove his claims. In avoidance of the question he has diverted onto
(not un-associated) subject to which I and other have responded,
example, Butts puts up photographs of a blonde white model, evidence
to posted showing it is lies. Others have their own reasons to be
here but they predominantly appear to be associated with morals/
ethics and bad advice offered to posters requesting help.

If you genuinely would like to see an end to these threads, I
respectfully suggest you concentrate your efforts on the cause, if
Butts does not do these things there would be no counter-posts,
opposing attempts highlight/prevent his activities does not show you
in a good light.

Stuart

[PajaP]

On Tue, 27 Apr 2010 12:53:25 -0700 (PDT), Stuart Saunders
<stuart093@googlemail.com> wrote:

>In your criticism of those who oppose the use of these boards for such
>activities you appear to supporting/advocating/defending the
>perpetrators.

Bollocks. But I refuse to fight anyone else's battles. Whereas you have
my sympathy for his slandering you and taking you code, that is where it
ends for me.
I have stated once before and will do so again (for the final time).
I do not support pcbutss in any way. Be he black/white, male/female.
I killfiled the tosspot a long time ago, along with some other morons in
this group.
So whatever you think I appear to be doing, I am not supporting him and
could not care less that you make bad assumptions.

>Yes I have, he has stolen my intellectual property and made damaging
>claims against me, my intentions and reputation, I am quite sure that
>if you were the target of such persistent actions, you would
>eventually say something

Yes, I would. Then I would shut up about it. People steal. If you see
copying code as theft then he is a thief. If he repeated his claim *I*
would refute it and expect everyone else to keep the f*ck out of it.
It is OT for this group. Maybe his code modifications are bad and that
is on-topic but the constant rants and claims to have his photo, posting
them on a web site, threats to kick his ass, know where he lives etc
blah blah blah are OT and pointless and irritating.
This is only an estimate but I would expect for every line of text
pcbutts has posted there are another 1000 lines in responses and
discussion (but you cannot really call it this). 99% of which has been
repeated ad nauseam.

>This post was never about warning people, it was started by a Butts
>sock puppet.The reason I am here, the platform where he distributes my
>intellectual property and made the claims, is to ask him to justify/
>prove his claims. In avoidance of the question he has diverted onto
>(not un-associated) subject to which I and other have responded,
>example, Butts puts up photographs of a blonde white model, evidence
>to posted showing it is lies.

This is boring. He is not a white blonde model. He may have a mental
disease. I do not care.
I would prefer to quietly read this group and pick up any interesting
malware information I could. Posting what I see as interesting
information and on topic information when I see fit. It is getting
increasingly difficult to separate the wheat from the chaff with 99% of
posts being pcbutts related.

>If you genuinely would like to see an end to these threads, I
>respectfully suggest you concentrate your efforts on the cause, if
>Butts does not do these things there would be no counter-posts,
>opposing attempts highlight/prevent his activities does not show you
>in a good light.

Again that is Bollocks. There is no cause. My being pissed at all the
pointless posts does not show me in a bad light. If it does, then I do
not care for those persons opinions.
You are not going to get any confession or admission of any guilt from
him. Asking is pointless. If you must refute his bull****, do so. If you
go excessively OT about it, I will respond myself.

[Dustin Cook]

PajaP <pajap@news-only.co.uk.invalid> wrote in
news:qjdet59n66ea8pn70bever2v90e2vlp1q1@4ax.com:

> On Tue, 27 Apr 2010 18:37:27 GMT, Dustin Cook
> <bughunter.dustin@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Hey, if your ever in my neck of the woods; your welcome to come for a
>>visit. If you do talk **** to me face to face tho, don't expect me to
>>just stand there and not jump at your offer of a physical
confrontation;
>>I'm more than capable of defending myself.
>>
>>I don't need my mama, but you might need a ride from the ambulance when
>>were finished, "talking".
>
> Big words. Little man.

Dunno... I don't know you. I'm 5f10inchs if that helps. I'm not big by
any means, but neither is dynamite. Still, it makes a lasting impression.

> I seriously doubt you are anywhere near the same league as me. But
> continue with your fantasy.

I've got a little over 5 years in karate, along with firearms training.
I'm not some punk ass teenager with a big mouth your chatting with. I do
have a life outside of usenet. And while I don't wish harm on anyone, I
won't let anyone turn me into a punching bag either.

I don't go looking to pick a fist fight with anyone, but I'll only turn
the other cheek once if someone takes a swing. One time, then it's your
ass. I will verbally warn you and disclose my martial arts training in
order to avoid an outright physical confrontation; but if you don't heed
my warnings and continue with a physical attack on me, well... You'll get
what you have coming, I guess.

It's basically what malcolmX said, in summary man. If they put there
hands on you, make sure they don't do it again to anyone else.

> Your physical threats of violence continue. A leopard cannot change its
> spots.

I have made no such threats of physical violence to anyone. What you
quoted, all of it, is a rant directed at pcbutts. C'mon man, do you
really think I'd waste the money on a plane ticket just to meet or beatup
Christopher or something?

As far as doesn't change spots goes, History would disagree with you.




--
"Hrrngh! Someday I'm going to hurl this...er...roll this...hrrngh.. nudge
this boulder right down a cliff." - Goblin Warrior

[PajaP]

On Tue, 27 Apr 2010 20:55:07 GMT, Dustin Cook
<bughunter.dustin@gmail.com> wrote:

<ego/fantasy snipped>
>
>I have made no such threats of physical violence to anyone. What you
>quoted, all of it, is a rant directed at pcbutts. C'mon man, do you
>really think I'd waste the money on a plane ticket just to meet or beatup
>Christopher or something?

I never said you carried them out. An idle threat is still a threat. A
lie is still a lie.