Who checks the malware fighters?

[~BD~]

BD said

> Maybe someone like David Kaye has the experience to determine if a
> machine is actually clean after installing and running MBAM. Someone,
> surely, has carried out an independent check to give such a widely
> used
> facility a clean bill of health. Whilst MBAM is obviously highly
> effective at removing 'malware' why is it considered impossible for
> the
> downloaded software to leave its own gremlin within the cleaned
> machine?

Dustin Cook said

Malwarebytes has thousands of happy users, gets praise every single day
on many forums; continues to be one of the top rated downloads for
antimalware at cnet.com. What you claim just doesn't jive with reality.
Your consiperacy theory BS aside, that is.

******

My question remains unanswered.

I'm *not* claiming anything - just seeking the truth!

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[Max Wachtel]

On Mon, 19 Apr 2010 05:40:12 -0300, ~BD~ <BoaterDave.NoSpam@hotmail.co.uk>
wrote:

>> why is it considered impossible for the
>> downloaded software to leave its own gremlin within the cleaned
>> machine?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gremlin
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[Mike Easter]

~BD~ wrote:
> My question remains unanswered.
>
> I'm *not* claiming anything - just seeking the truth!
>
You aren't contributing anything useful on this matter, you are just
making noise.

According to wikipedia and confirmed at the sites when possible:

PC World positive review of mbam http://snipr.com/vm30q Editorial Review
of Malwarebytes' Anti-Malware

CNET Editors' Choice Awards 2009 Winners - link no longer available

Bleeping computer recommends mbam for removal of 2 fake security apps, -
links working

Positive reviews from Network World and IT Reviews.

If you are concerned about installing mbam, there is a portable version
of mbam available, but not at portable apps.

mbam had a legal conflict with IOBit, claiming iobit infringed IP.
During that battle would have been a good time for iobit to claim that
mbam harbored 'gremlins', but it did not. It only claimed that it
didn't intentionally infringe IP and that remedies had been taken about
mbam's concerns.


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Mike Easter

[Jenn]

"Mike Easter" <MikeE@ster.invalid> wrote in message
news:83350kFrb1U1@mid.individual.net...
> ~BD~ wrote:
<snip>
> mbam had a legal conflict with IOBit, claiming iobit infringed IP. During
> that battle would have been a good time for iobit to claim that mbam
> harbored 'gremlins', but it did not. It only claimed that it didn't
> intentionally infringe IP and that remedies had been taken about mbam's
> concerns.
>


What does *infringe IP* mean?
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[Dustin Cook]

"Jenn" <me@nowhere.whocareswhatthisemailisanyway> wrote in
news:hqhprl$tle$1@news.eternal-september.org:

> "Mike Easter" <MikeE@ster.invalid> wrote in message
> news:83350kFrb1U1@mid.individual.net...
>> ~BD~ wrote:
> <snip>
>> mbam had a legal conflict with IOBit, claiming iobit infringed IP.
>> During that battle would have been a good time for iobit to claim
>> that mbam harbored 'gremlins', but it did not. It only claimed that
>> it didn't intentionally infringe IP and that remedies had been taken
>> about mbam's concerns.
>>
>
>
> What does *infringe IP* mean?

IP=intellectual property. IOBit reverse engineered mbams database and used
alot of it, line for line; as was copy/pasted from ours. Infringe means
they used it, without permission.


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[Jenn]

"Dustin Cook" <bughunter.dustin@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9D5F9C402CE21HHI2948AJD832@69.16.185.247.. .
> "Jenn" <me@nowhere.whocareswhatthisemailisanyway> wrote in
> news:hqhprl$tle$1@news.eternal-september.org:
>
>> "Mike Easter" <MikeE@ster.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:83350kFrb1U1@mid.individual.net...
>>> ~BD~ wrote:
>> <snip>
>>> mbam had a legal conflict with IOBit, claiming iobit infringed IP.
>>> During that battle would have been a good time for iobit to claim
>>> that mbam harbored 'gremlins', but it did not. It only claimed that
>>> it didn't intentionally infringe IP and that remedies had been taken
>>> about mbam's concerns.
>>>
>>
>>
>> What does *infringe IP* mean?
>
> IP=intellectual property. IOBit reverse engineered mbams database and used
> alot of it, line for line; as was copy/pasted from ours. Infringe means
> they used it, without permission.
>


IOBit is another company like malwarebytes? (never heard of it before)
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[Mike Easter]

Jenn wrote:

> IOBit is another company like malwarebytes? (never heard of it before)

IOBit denial of mbam's complaint

http://blog.iobit.com/declaration-from-iobit_95.html

IOBit front page http://www.iobit.com/

Like mbam, it also has free & pay. mbam has more reputation in freeware
discussion groups.


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[Dustin Cook]

"Jenn" <me@nowhere.whocareswhatthisemailisanyway> wrote in
news:hqiei3$blr$1@news.eternal-september.org:

> "Dustin Cook" <bughunter.dustin@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns9D5F9C402CE21HHI2948AJD832@69.16.185.247.. .
>> "Jenn" <me@nowhere.whocareswhatthisemailisanyway> wrote in
>> news:hqhprl$tle$1@news.eternal-september.org:
>>
>>> "Mike Easter" <MikeE@ster.invalid> wrote in message
>>> news:83350kFrb1U1@mid.individual.net...
>>>> ~BD~ wrote:
>>> <snip>
>>>> mbam had a legal conflict with IOBit, claiming iobit infringed IP.
>>>> During that battle would have been a good time for iobit to claim
>>>> that mbam harbored 'gremlins', but it did not. It only claimed
>>>> that it didn't intentionally infringe IP and that remedies had been
>>>> taken about mbam's concerns.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> What does *infringe IP* mean?
>>
>> IP=intellectual property. IOBit reverse engineered mbams database and
>> used alot of it, line for line; as was copy/pasted from ours.
>> Infringe means they used it, without permission.
>>
>
>
> IOBit is another company like malwarebytes? (never heard of it before)

It's another company like malwarebytes only in the sense they are against
malware. With that said tho, they took things that didn't belong to them;
like pcbutts routinely does. your not missing anything by not knowing
iobit software.


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this boulder right down a cliff." - Goblin Warrior

[Mike Easter]

Jenn wrote:
> "Mike Easter"
>> mbam had a legal conflict with IOBit, claiming iobit infringed IP. During
>> that battle would have been a good time for iobit to claim that mbam
>> harbored 'gremlins', but it did not. It only claimed that it didn't
>> intentionally infringe IP and that remedies had been taken about mbam's
>> concerns.

>
> What does *infringe IP* mean?

IP is intellectual property (rights) in this context. So the
infringement is on the property rights.

<wiki> On November 2, 2009, Malwarebytes accused rival IOBit of
incorporating the database of Malwarebytes' Anti-Malware (and several
products from other vendors, which were not named) in its security
software IOBit Security 360. ... Malwarebytes claims to have served DMCA
infringement notices against CNET Download.com and MajorGeeks.com in
order to have the download sites remove the IOBit software. </wiki>

DMCA = Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA) is a US copyright law


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[Jenn]

"Mike Easter" <MikeE@ster.invalid> wrote in message
news:833s8rFgvgU1@mid.individual.net...
> Jenn wrote:
>> "Mike Easter"
>>> mbam had a legal conflict with IOBit, claiming iobit infringed IP.
>>> During that battle would have been a good time for iobit to claim that
>>> mbam harbored 'gremlins', but it did not. It only claimed that it
>>> didn't intentionally infringe IP and that remedies had been taken about
>>> mbam's concerns.
>
>>
>> What does *infringe IP* mean?
>
> IP is intellectual property (rights) in this context. So the infringement
> is on the property rights.
>
> <wiki> On November 2, 2009, Malwarebytes accused rival IOBit of
> incorporating the database of Malwarebytes' Anti-Malware (and several
> products from other vendors, which were not named) in its security
> software IOBit Security 360. ... Malwarebytes claims to have served DMCA
> infringement notices against CNET Download.com and MajorGeeks.com in order
> to have the download sites remove the IOBit software. </wiki>
>
> DMCA = Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA) is a US copyright law
>


thanks Mike!
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