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[Jenn]

"Dustin Cook" <bughunter.dustin@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9D5FA4A795602HHI2948AJD832@69.16.185.247.. .
> "Jenn" <me@nowhere.whocareswhatthisemailisanyway> wrote in
>>
>>> He's active enough to continue threads in the alt.politics newsgroup.
>>
>> Like I said.. I've seen him pop online a few times, but not very long
>> and not alot. He IS in the UK and I'm in Oklahoma so even at best I
>> don't see him online alot except when it's late at night his time
>> zone.
>
> Well, he started a fresh thread in this newsgroup; quoting me, again.
> Making innuendo remarks about malwarebytes and myself.

Yeah ... I know ....

>>> I
>>> don't believe for one second that he doesn't know what he's doing or
>>> that he doesn't know how much of an arsehole he's become.
>>
>> Hey... the way I see it is that men are good at being @#$#holes
>> anyway.. so it's normal as far as I can tell, and you might think I'm
>> joking, but I'm not! LOL You men just have a different way of
>> communicating and being an @#$#hole is part of it when it comes to
>> knocking heads with other men.


> It's normal to lie and mislead individuals? It's not what I consider to
> be normal.

That's not what I said... I said it's normal when men are @@#@holes to each
other.

>> Perhaps, if you didn't allow what he said to get you upset and look at
>> it from a different perspective? Maybe that would help .......


> Easier said than done. His comments are borderline libel towards
> malwarebytes. I don't see what other perspective you think I should be
> looking at it from. I read his post, he's implying that malwarebytes
> and/or myself are bad people and shouldn't be trusted.

All I can say is that even you acknowledge that it's borderline. I've known
people all my life who just flat out would smack you right up side the face
verbally and then threaten to do it physically, too. When people sit on the
borderline, imo, it means they aren't sure what side of the fence they
should be on and often times people will test the waters on both sides to
help them make up their minds based on the responses they get. That usually
means there's going to be some flack flying in all directions until that
fence sitter gets it figure out one way or another. I'm not saying it's
right or it's wrong.. I'm just saying that's how some people deal with
things they aren't sure of.

>> Would you want people to diss friends of yours simply because those
>> friends thought highly of you? I'm sure you wouldn't, Dustin. You
>> need to realize that it's very unfair on your part to do that to
>> people when you really wouldn't want people doing that same thing to
>> people you know and believe to be good.


> I give up Jenn. As far as you seem to be concerned, poor BD isn't doing
> anything and I'm just picking on him. I get it. I'm done, thanks.

No.. I never said he wasn't doing anything wrong. I usually tell him myself
if I think he's doing something wrong, too. He'll tell you! LOL

What I'm saying is how we choose to respond to how people poke us can make a
big difference in either ending up in a knock down drag out fight vs. a
discussion.


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Jenn (from Oklahoma)
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[Jenn]

"Dustin Cook" <bughunter.dustin@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> "Beauregard T. Shagnasty" <a.nony.mous@example.invalid> wrote in

> Yep.. It went south pretty quickly, but BD did bring up the entire
> religious aspect. Why? Probably to instigate and inflame.

You can tell alot about people when they are responding out of anger or
frustration, Dustin. It is one technique used by some in order to get
people to let their guard down and show their true colors. The thing is...
how people are when they are angry or frustrated isn't the whole story of
who they are... it just means they aren't good at communicating when they
are angry or frustrated.

<snip>

> Yes, clearly that is his motis operadi (sp?). Why else would he post an
> easter post from a malwarebytes employee; and then have his sig say, Nice
> guy Jenn?
>


He said that to me because he wants to know what I think. I don't judge
people based on one thing they've done. People deserve every chance ... imo
.......
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[Jenn]

"Dustin Cook" <bughunter.dustin@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9D5F9B9CB841FHHI2948AJD832@69.16.185.247.. .
> "Jenn" <me@nowhere.whocareswhatthisemailisanyway> wrote in
> news:hqi6uv$d85$1@news.eternal-september.org:
>
>> "Beauregard T. Shagnasty" <a.nony.mous@example.invalid> wrote in

>>> That's exactly right. BD was the first to bring up "Jewish" in this
>>> thread:
>>
>> Who brought up *Jewish* first is not an issue. That is how children
>> deal with issues they don't get along on.


> How do you figure that isn't an issue? That's akin to somebody yelling
> "nigger" or something else offensive to a room full of black individuals
> and then complaining when one of them beats your ass withen inches of
> your life.

How you or I decide to respond to any given comment shows our maturity
level, Dustin.

Additionally, you can't have it both ways ... tell someone it's wrong, and
then do it yourself because you feel they *deserve it* and still be credible
to anyone outside of the group who is going to pat you on the back for
getting in a zinger.


>> Complaining that so and so said such and such, and then doing it right
>> back at them because *they deserve it* reeks of moral relativity. That


> Why don't you question the source of the termoil?

Because there will always be some source that people will use to excuse how
they respond. It's easier to blame someone else because *they started it*
instead of taking responsibility for how you responded.


> He clearly knew what he
> was doing when he incited the responding posts.

No doubt... and those who don't respond wisely find themselves responding
out of anger or frustration without thinking.

> Do you really not see
> that?

Sure, I understand what's happening. The problem is you and others prefer
to respond from your emotions first rather than responding with well thought
out information.

> What possible reason would he have for making the posts targetting
> me in a forum I didn't even subscribe to?

I can only take a wild guess, but that guess would be to see what responses
he gets... reactions or information.

> This isn't complicated logic. Your friend BD has real serious issues,
> aside from lieing.

No it isn't complicated once you realize how to respond without anger or
frustration.

>> method for ones responses should have been outgrown by the time a
>> person gets out of highschool, but sadly, there are many adults who
>> deal with conflict as if they never left.


> Yes, and then there are others like you, who aren't interested in how the
> conflict came to be, but certainly likes to tell others all about it.


I've been studying conflict and communication for over 25 yrs. How conflict
happens is usually due the inability of people to: 1-not respond out of
anger or frustration, 2-inability to communicate effectively when feeling
anger or frustration, 3-the lack of skills in communication with other
people, 4- immaturity, 5-unwillingness to change and learn better
communication skills.


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Jenn (from Oklahoma)
http://pqlr.org/bbs/

[Jenn]

"ASCII" <me2@privacy.net> wrote in message news:4bceceaf.1655453@EDCBIC...
> Jenn wrote:
>>"ASCII" <me2@privacy.net> wrote in message news:4bcc88c3.3731656@EDCBIC...
>>> Jenn wrote:
>>>>I'd say I'm pretty ept when it comes to English and understand it.
>>>
>>> "ept"?
>>> Isn't it a bit ironic when someone commits a misspelling,
>>> in the process of flaunting their expertise with language? <g>
>>
>>Word Origin & History
>>ept
>>1938, back formation from inept, usually with an attempt at comical
>>effect.
>>Online Etymology Dictionary, © 2010 Douglas Harper
>>Cite This Source
>>
>><wink>
>
> So you intended to express your ineptitude
> by using a derivative of 'inept'?
> OK, I just thought you meant 'apt'.

LOL no ... my parents always used the word 'ept' to mean the opposite of
inept. Perhaps it was just a usage they were familiar with, but I grew up
using it that way too.
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Jenn (from Oklahoma)
http://pqlr.org/bbs/

[Jenn]

"ASCII" <me2@privacy.net> wrote in message news:4bcfcebf.1671812@EDCBIC...
> Jenn wrote:
>>"Dustin Cook" <bughunter.dustin@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:Xns9D5F981DA49A8HHI2948AJD832@69.16.185.247 ...
>>> ASCII <me2@privacy.net> wrote in news:4bcc88c3.3731656@EDCBIC:
>>>
>>>> Jenn wrote:
>>>>>I'd say I'm pretty ept when it comes to English and understand it.
>>>>
>>>> "ept"?
>>>> Isn't it a bit ironic when someone commits a misspelling,
>>>> in the process of flaunting their expertise with language? <g>
>>>
>>> Almost as lame as the grammar cracks various people like to make. If
>>> you
>>> can read it, you did understand it, obviously.
>
> since you bumped his nonsense...
> RaiD is grammar challenged so therefore I tend to ignore his prattle.
> He has self esteem issues that render him incapable of accepting his
> deficiencies and typically resorts to an immature attack on anyone that
> draws
> attention to it.
>
>>The term was used quite often by my parents when I was growing up...
>
> Having grown up in the Southeast myself

Southeast.. where exactly?

> I'm quite familiar with poor usage of grammar and syntax,
> doesn't excuse it however.

hey.. I haven't even begun to talk like my southern roots might demand I
talk from time to time... seeing my my blood kin from my mothers side of the
family are from the sticks of Alabama. haha .... I can be quite the
southern bell if I wanted to.

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Jenn (from Oklahoma)
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[Dustin Cook]

ASCII <me2@privacy.net> wrote in news:4bcfcebf.1671812@EDCBIC:

> Jenn wrote:
>>"Dustin Cook" <bughunter.dustin@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:Xns9D5F981DA49A8HHI2948AJD832@69.16.185.247 ...
>>> ASCII <me2@privacy.net> wrote in news:4bcc88c3.3731656@EDCBIC:
>>>
>>>> Jenn wrote:
>>>>>I'd say I'm pretty ept when it comes to English and understand it.
>>>>
>>>> "ept"?
>>>> Isn't it a bit ironic when someone commits a misspelling,
>>>> in the process of flaunting their expertise with language? <g>
>>>
>>> Almost as lame as the grammar cracks various people like to make.
>>> If you
>>> can read it, you did understand it, obviously.
>
> since you bumped his nonsense...
> RaiD is grammar challenged so therefore I tend to ignore his prattle.
> He has self esteem issues that render him incapable of accepting his
> deficiencies and typically resorts to an immature attack on anyone
> that draws attention to it.

But of course, says the individual who is proud to run a bootlegged copy
of the software I helped write definitions for. Naturally, I'm just
prattle but he uses the pro version (he's too cheap to pay the lifetime
registration) all the same.

self esteem issues? is this some new BS your spouting off at the mouth
with now? All because you don't like my improper usage of grammar? Laugh
****ing laugh.


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this boulder right down a cliff." - Goblin Warrior

[Dustin Cook]

"Jenn" <me@nowhere.whocareswhatthisemailisanyway> wrote in
news:hqies2$cn3$1@news.eternal-september.org:

> "Dustin Cook" <bughunter.dustin@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns9D5FA06F4AF6EHHI2948AJD832@69.16.185.247.. .
>> "Jenn" <me@nowhere.whocareswhatthisemailisanyway> wrote in
>> news:hqib3m$tu3$1@news.eternal-september.org:
>>
>>> "Dustin Cook" <bughunter.dustin@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:Xns9D5F980521939HHI2948AJD832@69.16.185.247.. .
>>>> "Jenn" <me@nowhere.whocareswhatthisemailisanyway> wrote in
>>>
>>>>> Frankly, I wish you all would take your bickering private, too,
>>>>> but ALAS, YOU WON'T, either... so unless you care to lead by
>>>>> example, I suggest you understand that you aren't any better than
>>>>> the people you complain about until you clean up your own ways of
>>>>> fighting and bickering on this ng yourself.
>>>
>>>
>>>> Blah. I'm better in one sense; I don't steal other peoples work and
>>>> try to pass it off as my own!
>>>
>>> I believe you. I've always considered you to be a good guy. Really!
>>>
>>>
>>>> As you will never understand why that
>>>> absolutely pisses so many of us off, theres no real point in
>>>> further communications. Your mind is clearly made up, for better or
>>>> worse.
>>>
>>> I understand your feelings about having your work stolen. I would
>>> be upset, too, if my work were to be stolen, so I do understand your
>>> frustration.
>>
>> He hasn't stolen any of my own work. He's just made a few low quality
>> pornos where he implies it's me as the lead character.
>>
>> BugHunter wasn't a script file he could open with notepad, so I
>> didn't have to worry too much about him stealing or modifying my
>> program.
>>
>> If I ever was in ca for a visit or something and I met the sorry dude
>> face to face, I have to be honest. I would most likely walk right up
>> to the guy and start wailing on him. First, a quick punch to the
>> throat (you can't breathe, you can't fight) followed up by a quick
>> plink of his eyes (you can't see, you can't fight) and then a nice
>> side knee kick.
>>
>> Followed by a few round kicks to his upper chest facial area.
>>
>> I'd probably even make him eat a printout of that horse pic he has.
>> All of it. Hell, I might even find a horserance and make him be a
>> star.
>>
>> By the time I was finished with him, no plastic surgeon in the world
>> could make him look normal again. I'd probably break his fingers too,
>> every single one of them.
>>
>> A thief deserves nothing but harsh treatment. The finger breaking is
>> really to discourage further theft.
>>
>
>
> I understand your frustration, but it's probably not worth your future
> to actually do those things.

Like I said, it's only if I was ever in ca and had the opportunity to
talk to him in person. As he's every bit of the wuss I know him to be,
that's highly unlikely to happen.

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"Hrrngh! Someday I'm going to hurl this...er...roll this...hrrngh.. nudge
this boulder right down a cliff." - Goblin Warrior

[Dustin Cook]

Toxic <staring@my_hd.tv> wrote in newsan.2010.04.19.21.55.24@cdc.gov:

> On Mon, 19 Apr 2010 19:39:19 +0000, Dustin Cook dreamt and slobbered:
>
>
>> If I ever was in ca for a visit or something and I met the sorry dude
>> face to face, I have to be honest. I would most likely walk right up
to
>> the guy and start wailing on him. First, a quick punch to the throat
>> (you can't breathe, you can't fight) followed up by a quick plink of
his
>> eyes (you can't see, you can't fight) and then a nice side knee kick.
>>
>> Followed by a few round kicks to his upper chest facial area.
>>
>> I'd probably even make him eat a printout of that horse pic he has.
All
>> of it. Hell, I might even find a horserance and make him be a star.
>>
>> By the time I was finished with him, no plastic surgeon in the world
>> could make him look normal again. I'd probably break his fingers too,
>> every single one of them.
>>
>> A thief deserves nothing but harsh treatment. The finger breaking is
>> really to discourage further theft.
>
> Do you even begin to realize how puerile your rant sounds?
> That's enough compensatory fantasy to give you wet dreams.
>

Hmm.. Wasn't a rant. Take it as you please tho.


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this boulder right down a cliff." - Goblin Warrior

[Dustin Cook]

"Jenn" <me@nowhere.whocareswhatthisemailisanyway> wrote in
news:hqidaa$6tt$1@news.eternal-september.org:

> "Dustin Cook" <bughunter.dustin@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns9D5F9A7E54154HHI2948AJD832@69.16.185.247.. .
>> "Jenn" <me@nowhere.whocareswhatthisemailisanyway> wrote in
>> news:hqhu55$cv6$1@news.eternal-september.org:
>>
>>> "Dustin Cook" <bughunter.dustin@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:Xns9D5F77C431EB3HHI2948AJD832@69.16.185.250.. .
>>>> "Jenn" <nope@noway.atnohow.anyday> wrote in
>>>
>>>>>>> Heather,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I asked this in another thread and I got no response from
>>>>>>> anyone.. so I will ask you.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ... what's the big deal if everyone else on this group is
>>>>>>> Jewish? Do you have something against non-Jewish people? Why
>>>>>>> would you even bring it up if you didn't have something against
>>>>>>> non-Jewish people??
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'd like an answer.
>>>
>>>>>> Jenn
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Stop playing the fool. Heather posted a very smart answer for
>>>>>> this idiot
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I want an answer to my question, Peter. She included me in her
>>>>> sentiment about non-jewish people. You and no one else corrected
>>>>> her or so much as told her it was wrong to even make such a
>>>>> statement.
>>>
>>>
>>>> Wait a minute now. What's good for the goose is good for the
>>>> gander. AFAIK, the entire jewish discussion started by BD; your..
>>>> ehh, friend. Not anyone here.
>
>
>>> If a person believes something is wrong to do and then participates
>>> in doing it to others simply because they believe someone *deserves*
>>> it, then their original outrage is really a lie. In essence, they
>>> only believe it is wrong if someone does it to them, but it's ok if
>>> they do it to others IF THEY DESERVE IT.
>
>>> It's easy to give it back if you want to, but don't disguise it as
>>> something less than what you're complaining others do.
>
>
>> Jenn. I have read my post and your reply twice now; and I have to
>> tell you, I'm completely lost. BD started the jewish discussion; I
>> don't personally care what religion somebody is or is not, so long as
>> they don't preach to me.
>
> ok .. I'll explain ... (I don't have the direct quote handy.. but
> it's not important for this explanation.)
> BD made a comment about Jewish... something or other.. Several people,
> including Heather, complained that BD was making a dig about Jewish
> people. SO... Heather retorts with "everyone here is Jewish but you
> and Jenn HA HA so you're now the minority".

I believe Heather made that with tongue in cheek humour in mind.

> ...the problem I am pointing out is that Heather made a point of
> objecting to making comments about the jewish religion... what does
> she do? She goes and makes her own comments about non-jews in an

Erm, she made a wisecrack in response to BD's comments. I don't know what
her personal views are regarding jews. and I don't care. Religion is like
politics to me.

I think, imho, you fired at the wrong person here. BD was the one
innsinuating something is wrong with a jewish person. Not her.

> is wrong. However, by her behavior, she only believes it's wrong to
> do if someone does it to her (or the religion she cares about).. It's
> not wrong if she does it to someone she feels *deserves it*.

I didn't read that at all.



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"Hrrngh! Someday I'm going to hurl this...er...roll this...hrrngh.. nudge
this boulder right down a cliff." - Goblin Warrior

[Dustin Cook]

"Jenn" <me@nowhere.whocareswhatthisemailisanyway> wrote in
news:hqihli$n2e$1@news.eternal-september.org:

> "Dustin Cook" <bughunter.dustin@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns9D5F9B9CB841FHHI2948AJD832@69.16.185.247.. .
>> "Jenn" <me@nowhere.whocareswhatthisemailisanyway> wrote in
>> news:hqi6uv$d85$1@news.eternal-september.org:
>>
>>> "Beauregard T. Shagnasty" <a.nony.mous@example.invalid> wrote in
>
>>>> That's exactly right. BD was the first to bring up "Jewish" in this
>>>> thread:
>>>
>>> Who brought up *Jewish* first is not an issue. That is how children
>>> deal with issues they don't get along on.
>
>
>> How do you figure that isn't an issue? That's akin to somebody
>> yelling "nigger" or something else offensive to a room full of black
>> individuals and then complaining when one of them beats your ass
>> withen inches of your life.
>
> How you or I decide to respond to any given comment shows our maturity
> level, Dustin.

I don't think it does in reality. Too many people think improper spelling
or swapping there for their is a huge deal and it's usually only said
when the person has totally lost the plot and just has that left for
ammo. Childish, and pointless.

> Additionally, you can't have it both ways ... tell someone it's wrong,
> and then do it yourself because you feel they *deserve it* and still
> be credible to anyone outside of the group who is going to pat you on
> the back for getting in a zinger.

Heh, I'm not the most popular one here Jenn. I have my own share of
people I don't get along with; along with some cowards who don't even
post with their real names. So I'm not looking for any pat on the backs
for anything from anyone. I don't live to please people here.

>
>>> Complaining that so and so said such and such, and then doing it
>>> right back at them because *they deserve it* reeks of moral
>>> relativity. That
>
>
>> Why don't you question the source of the termoil?
>
> Because there will always be some source that people will use to
> excuse how they respond. It's easier to blame someone else because
> *they started it* instead of taking responsibility for how you
> responded.
>
>
>> He clearly knew what he
>> was doing when he incited the responding posts.
>
> No doubt... and those who don't respond wisely find themselves
> responding out of anger or frustration without thinking.

What's really to think about? The guy emails you out of the blue, easy
enough questions then proceeds to ask questions about other people or
other programs that he should just be asking them. The fact he can't get
anyone to trust him enough to tell him anything only proves my point
further. There's a right way and a wrong way to go about doing things,
Jenn.

>> Do you really not see
>> that?
>
> Sure, I understand what's happening. The problem is you and others
> prefer to respond from your emotions first rather than responding with
> well thought out information.

Not true. If you hadn't of skipped all the conversations in progress,
you'd see myself and others have provided BD useful information in
regards to pcbutts. BD ignores it. That doesn't leave much left in the
way of motive.

>> What possible reason would he have for making the posts targetting
>> me in a forum I didn't even subscribe to?
>
> I can only take a wild guess, but that guess would be to see what
> responses he gets... reactions or information.

As I said, there's ways to get the information one seeks, without pissing
everyone off and making lifelong enemies fast and in a hurry. Implying
ones intentions when you don't know them, (which is what he's been doing
for days now) isn't going to make you any friends or open up any
information dwelling doors for you. In fact, you can expect quiet the
opposite.

>> This isn't complicated logic. Your friend BD has real serious issues,
>> aside from lieing.
>
> No it isn't complicated once you realize how to respond without anger
> or frustration.

Yep, it's really simple. You killfile him. as he's nothing more than a
troll, until he shows otherwise. And obviously, that's not going to
happen. The guy has deep, troublesome issues with telling the truth and
imagining things to be true.

I'm sorry Jenn, but BD isn't a saint or anything. He's a usenet troller;
nothing more, certainly nothing of value, and nothing less.

> I've been studying conflict and communication for over 25 yrs. How
> conflict happens is usually due the inability of people to: 1-not
> respond out of anger or frustration, 2-inability to communicate
> effectively when feeling anger or frustration, 3-the lack of skills in
> communication with other people, 4- immaturity, 5-unwillingness to
> change and learn better communication skills.

Well, if it was just myself having issues communicating with BD, I might
buy it was on my end. When more than one node keeps getting it's packets
dropped, it's considered to be on the recieving end where the issue lies.


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