Ping: Dustin

[~BD~]

Jenn wrote:
>> What gives you the right to tell me whether or not to
>> respond to anyone, especially if they have made a comment regarding
>> me in their post?
>>
>> I am up front with how I feel about things, so there isn't any me
>> *showing* what I'm all about, because I am just who I am all the
>> time. I say what is on my mind.
>>
>> You did not answer my question, either. Do you want to try to be
>> friends or not? Friends should be able to be up front with each
>> other and even disagree on issues from time to time.. and still be
>> able to maintain their friendship. I don't have to agree with
>> everything you say and vice versa in order to be friends with
>> someone. I'm willing to keep trying if you are willing.
>> --
>> Jenn (from Oklahoma)
>> http://pqlr.org/bbs/


Hi Jenn!

There is something of the night about Peter Foldes, as I've mentioned
many times.

He most certainly will show you no respect whatever, mark my words.

Dustin? A good guy? He has had me banned/excluded from Malwarebytes,
rather that have a continuing dialogue. That is *not* good behaviour
IMO. Maybe someone has something to hide there after all? Maybe you
should visit and read the posts I've made there in the past - I did give
them the benefit of the doubt initially but, it now appears,
erroneously!
--
Dave - working really hard on the boat PF says I do not own! ;-)

[David H. Lipman]

From: "~BD~" <BoaterDaveNoSpam@Hotmail.co.uk>

| Jenn wrote:
>>> What gives you the right to tell me whether or not to
>>> respond to anyone, especially if they have made a comment regarding
>>> me in their post?

>>> I am up front with how I feel about things, so there isn't any me
>>> *showing* what I'm all about, because I am just who I am all the
>>> time. I say what is on my mind.

>>> You did not answer my question, either. Do you want to try to be
>>> friends or not? Friends should be able to be up front with each
>>> other and even disagree on issues from time to time.. and still be
>>> able to maintain their friendship. I don't have to agree with
>>> everything you say and vice versa in order to be friends with
>>> someone. I'm willing to keep trying if you are willing.
>>> --
>>> Jenn (from Oklahoma)
>>> http://pqlr.org/bbs/


| Hi Jenn!

| There is something of the night about Peter Foldes, as I've mentioned
| many times.

| He most certainly will show you no respect whatever, mark my words.

| Dustin? A good guy? He has had me banned/excluded from Malwarebytes,
| rather that have a continuing dialogue. That is *not* good behaviour
| IMO. Maybe someone has something to hide there after all? Maybe you
| should visit and read the posts I've made there in the past - I did give
| them the benefit of the doubt initially but, it now appears,
| erroneously!
| --
| Dave - working really hard on the boat PF says I do not own! ;-)

It wasn't Dustin who got you banned!

YOU got yourself banned because you have no clue what is appropriate or inappropriate
behaviour.

Posting the soft porn picture in the Easter thread got you banned. The first time you
posted it, it was summarily removed. When you posted it a second time Marcin's minions
pulled your plug w/o hesitation. Your bad mouthing of MBAM didn't help either.
Malwarebytes' personnel were not happy with your Usenet posts and the comment on Butts'
blog. That put you on their sh!t list. The soft porn picture was the straw that broke
the perverbial camel's back.

/* You're a clueless moron. */

--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp

[Peter Foldes]

Jenn

Never told you that. What I told you if you care to re-read the post is to stay out
of the conversation between BD and others. You twist words around just like BD and
take things out of context and you deserved what you got. You are a nice lady but DO
NOT stick your nose into the differences I and others with that Idiot and Troll and
then I will not involve you and others will also not involve you as someone taking
sides with the wrong issue.

--
Peter

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"Jenn" <me@nowhere.whocareswhatthisemailisanyway> wrote in message
news:hpvsqa$r5m$1@news.eternal-september.org...
> "Peter Foldes" <okf22@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:hpvqpm$so9$1@speranza.aioe.org...
>> There you go. Showing what you are all about. All I said to you and I did put it
>> nicely "Do not involve yourself between BD and others" I guess this is too much
>> for you to bare. " The authority here in the alt. groups seems to be you and darn
>> it Jenn you just showed it. Good luck to you .
>>
>
>
> I am a woman...a mother, a wife (married going on 30 yrs this May), and a
> grandmother, and I don't like you or any other man trying to tell me what to do,
> Peter ... I have a mind of my own and intend on using it. What gives you the
> right to tell me whether or not to respond to anyone, especially if they have made
> a comment regarding me in their post?
>
> I am up front with how I feel about things, so there isn't any me *showing* what
> I'm all about, because I am just who I am all the time. I say what is on my mind.
>
> You did not answer my question, either. Do you want to try to be friends or not?
> Friends should be able to be up front with each other and even disagree on issues
> from time to time.. and still be able to maintain their friendship. I don't have
> to agree with everything you say and vice versa in order to be friends with
> someone. I'm willing to keep trying if you are willing.
> --
> Jenn (from Oklahoma)
> http://pqlr.org/bbs/
>

[Jenn]

"Peter Foldes" <okf22@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:hqcfqq$j4i$1@speranza.aioe.org...
>> news:hpvqpm$so9$1@speranza.aioe.org...
>>> There you go. Showing what you are all about. All I said to you and I
>>> did put it nicely "Do not involve yourself between BD and others" I
>>> guess this is too much for you to bare. " The authority here in the alt.
>>> groups seems to be you and darn it Jenn you just showed it. Good luck to
>>> you .


>> I am a woman...a mother, a wife (married going on 30 yrs this May), and a
>> grandmother, and I don't like you or any other man trying to tell me what
>> to do, Peter ... I have a mind of my own and intend on using it. What
>> gives you the right to tell me whether or not to respond to anyone,
>> especially if they have made a comment regarding me in their post?

>> I am up front with how I feel about things, so there isn't any me
>> *showing* what I'm all about, because I am just who I am all the time. I
>> say what is on my mind.

>> You did not answer my question, either. Do you want to try to be friends
>> or not? Friends should be able to be up front with each other and even
>> disagree on issues from time to time.. and still be able to maintain
>> their friendship. I don't have to agree with everything you say and vice
>> versa in order to be friends with someone. I'm willing to keep trying if
>> you are willing.




> Never told you that. What I told you if you care to re-read the post is to
> stay out of the conversation between BD and others. You twist words around
> just like BD and take things out of context and you deserved what you got.

I don't twist anyone's words, Peter. I just say what is on my mind. If
someone says something is not true, but I know it is true.. I say it is
true. That isn't twisting anyone's words. I would do the same for you if
someone said untrue things about you....... just like I posted on SE that I
believed what you said about when you were young. I defended you on that
point because I believe you.

But for me.... to get to know people better... I like to look people in
their eyes and see their facial expressions and they can see my eyes and my
facial expressions so we both understand each other better. If you notice,
I pretty much only comment on what I've seen ... like I've seen and video
chatted with Dave and his wife and seen family photos and all that stuff.
Before I video chatted with Dave, I had many doubts about him, too...
reservations about who he was...etc... but I'm very cautious with people and
I find it difficult to trust people, anyway, so that is a normal response
for me until I see people and can look them in the eyes and get to know them
better. I've never seen you, or heard your voice like in a video chat.
Seeing people and being able to chat with them is one way I get to know
people better. I'd be willing to video chat with you, too, so I will know
the truth about who you are, too. If you know who I am better, you will
come to understand me better and will see that in my heart I want to do
right by people because I want them to do right by me, too. It's just the
right thing to do.

> You are a nice lady

I try to be, and I try to get to know people and give them many chances so I
don't end up misunderstanding them. I also don't want to take up someone
elses offense... what I mean by that is... I don't want to judge you, for
example, on the basis of someone elses disagreement with you, like between
you and dave. I will listen to him and to you, but that will not make my
decision about who you or he is or is not. There are so many factors
involved when people don't get along. I can like Dave, but I can also like
you, too, even if Dave doesn't....... If you say something about Dave that I
know is not true, I will say so.. and if he says something about you I know
is not true.. I will also say so to him.

> but DO NOT stick your nose into the differences I and others with that
> Idiot and Troll and then I will not involve you and others will also not
> involve you as someone taking sides with the wrong issue.


I don't want to get in the middle of you and Dave's issues concerning
various disagreements, but if I know something is or isn't true, I feel it
would be wrong of me not to speak up and say so. I don't do it to tick you
off or anyone else. I do it because I feel it would be wrong of me to keep
quiet. For me, it is the greater *sin*, you could say, to protect myself
from attack and to keep quiet, than to offend someone because I told the
truth. I really don't want to be attacked or offend you either, but if
someone said an untruth about me I'd want someone to come and tell the truth
even if it cost them something on my behalf. I do for other people what I
would want them to do for me. Does this make any sense?

--
Jenn (from Oklahoma)

[Dustin Cook]

"~BD~" <BoaterDaveNoSpam@Hotmail.co.uk> wrote in news:hqbs1b$a8f$1
@news.eternal-september.org:

> Jenn wrote:
>>> What gives you the right to tell me whether or not to
>>> respond to anyone, especially if they have made a comment regarding
>>> me in their post?
>>>
>>> I am up front with how I feel about things, so there isn't any me
>>> *showing* what I'm all about, because I am just who I am all the
>>> time. I say what is on my mind.
>>>
>>> You did not answer my question, either. Do you want to try to be
>>> friends or not? Friends should be able to be up front with each
>>> other and even disagree on issues from time to time.. and still be
>>> able to maintain their friendship. I don't have to agree with
>>> everything you say and vice versa in order to be friends with
>>> someone. I'm willing to keep trying if you are willing.
>>> --
>>> Jenn (from Oklahoma)
>>> http://pqlr.org/bbs/
>
>
> Hi Jenn!
>
> There is something of the night about Peter Foldes, as I've mentioned
> many times.
>
> He most certainly will show you no respect whatever, mark my words.

You have certainly *not* earned respect here, Dave. Respect is not
something freely given away. You have to earn it. Demonstrate or otherwise
show you deserve to be respected.

> Dustin? A good guy? He has had me banned/excluded from Malwarebytes,
> rather that have a continuing dialogue. That is *not* good behaviour
> IMO. Maybe someone has something to hide there after all? Maybe you
> should visit and read the posts I've made there in the past - I did

*I* have done nothing of the sort. I have *nothing* to do with your ban,
decietful jerk. I pointed out the blogpost of yours, as I found it to be
erroneous and intentionally misleading. You targetted malwarebytes because
of a personal issue you seem to think you have with me.

I have no control over what malwarebytes does or does not do the
troublesome trollish posters who enjoy posting nudie pics in a public
forum. It wasn't until you did that for a 2nd time that you were actually
banned, truth be told. And again, *I* didn't have a thing to do with it.


It's not possible to have a dialogue with you; You twist things, cut/paste
out of context, repost to completely non-revelant groups.



give
> them the benefit of the doubt initially but, it now appears,
> erroneously!



--
"Hrrngh! Someday I'm going to hurl this...er...roll this...hrrngh.. nudge
this boulder right down a cliff." - Goblin Warrior

[Dustin Cook]

"David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote in
news:hqc82c0bpi@news3.newsguy.com:

> From: "~BD~" <BoaterDaveNoSpam@Hotmail.co.uk>
>
>| Jenn wrote:
>>>> What gives you the right to tell me whether or not to
>>>> respond to anyone, especially if they have made a comment regarding
>>>> me in their post?
>
>>>> I am up front with how I feel about things, so there isn't any me
>>>> *showing* what I'm all about, because I am just who I am all the
>>>> time. I say what is on my mind.
>
>>>> You did not answer my question, either. Do you want to try to be
>>>> friends or not? Friends should be able to be up front with each
>>>> other and even disagree on issues from time to time.. and still be
>>>> able to maintain their friendship. I don't have to agree with
>>>> everything you say and vice versa in order to be friends with
>>>> someone. I'm willing to keep trying if you are willing.
>>>> --
>>>> Jenn (from Oklahoma)
>>>> http://pqlr.org/bbs/
>
>
>| Hi Jenn!
>
>| There is something of the night about Peter Foldes, as I've mentioned
>| many times.
>
>| He most certainly will show you no respect whatever, mark my words.
>
>| Dustin? A good guy? He has had me banned/excluded from Malwarebytes,
>| rather that have a continuing dialogue. That is *not* good behaviour
>| IMO. Maybe someone has something to hide there after all? Maybe you
>| should visit and read the posts I've made there in the past - I did
>| give them the benefit of the doubt initially but, it now appears,
>| erroneously!
>| --
>| Dave - working really hard on the boat PF says I do not own! ;-)
>
> It wasn't Dustin who got you banned!
>
> YOU got yourself banned because you have no clue what is appropriate
> or inappropriate behaviour.
>
> Posting the soft porn picture in the Easter thread got you banned.
> The first time you posted it, it was summarily removed. When you
> posted it a second time Marcin's minions pulled your plug w/o
> hesitation. Your bad mouthing of MBAM didn't help either.
> Malwarebytes' personnel were not happy with your Usenet posts and the
> comment on Butts' blog. That put you on their sh!t list. The soft
> porn picture was the straw that broke the perverbial camel's back.
>
> /* You're a clueless moron. */
>

Thanks David. That guy and his female friend really should go play
elsewhere.


--
"Hrrngh! Someday I'm going to hurl this...er...roll this...hrrngh.. nudge
this boulder right down a cliff." - Goblin Warrior

[Peter Foldes]

Jenn

And I say the same to you
I am a man ..a father a husband (going on 40 yrs this July), and a
grandfather, and I don't like you or any other woman or man putting their nose and 2
cents into the business between me and that idiot Troll David Brooks (aka BD)
You would like to avoid situations like this Jenn then I would strongly suggest that
you avoid your opinions either way when it comes to BD and anybody else including me
concerning him. Stay neutral and avoid any comments to either sides. Life and
enjoying yourself on these and other groups will be so much more enjoyable for you.
Have a nice weekend


--
Peter

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"Jenn" <nope@noway.atnohow.anyday> wrote in message
news:hqcjvv$40q$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>
> "Peter Foldes" <okf22@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:hqcfqq$j4i$1@speranza.aioe.org...
>>> news:hpvqpm$so9$1@speranza.aioe.org...
>>>> There you go. Showing what you are all about. All I said to you and I did put
>>>> it nicely "Do not involve yourself between BD and others" I guess this is too
>>>> much for you to bare. " The authority here in the alt. groups seems to be you
>>>> and darn it Jenn you just showed it. Good luck to you .
>
>
>>> I am a woman...a mother, a wife (married going on 30 yrs this May), and a
>>> grandmother, and I don't like you or any other man trying to tell me what to do,
>>> Peter ... I have a mind of my own and intend on using it. What gives you the
>>> right to tell me whether or not to respond to anyone, especially if they have
>>> made a comment regarding me in their post?
>
>>> I am up front with how I feel about things, so there isn't any me *showing* what
>>> I'm all about, because I am just who I am all the time. I say what is on my
>>> mind.
>
>>> You did not answer my question, either. Do you want to try to be friends or
>>> not? Friends should be able to be up front with each other and even disagree on
>>> issues from time to time.. and still be able to maintain their friendship. I
>>> don't have to agree with everything you say and vice versa in order to be
>>> friends with someone. I'm willing to keep trying if you are willing.
>
>
>
>
>> Never told you that. What I told you if you care to re-read the post is to stay
>> out of the conversation between BD and others. You twist words around just like
>> BD and take things out of context and you deserved what you got.
>
> I don't twist anyone's words, Peter. I just say what is on my mind. If someone
> says something is not true, but I know it is true.. I say it is true. That isn't
> twisting anyone's words. I would do the same for you if someone said untrue
> things about you....... just like I posted on SE that I believed what you said
> about when you were young. I defended you on that point because I believe you.
>
> But for me.... to get to know people better... I like to look people in their eyes
> and see their facial expressions and they can see my eyes and my facial
> expressions so we both understand each other better. If you notice, I pretty much
> only comment on what I've seen ... like I've seen and video chatted with Dave and
> his wife and seen family photos and all that stuff. Before I video chatted with
> Dave, I had many doubts about him, too... reservations about who he was...etc...
> but I'm very cautious with people and I find it difficult to trust people, anyway,
> so that is a normal response for me until I see people and can look them in the
> eyes and get to know them better. I've never seen you, or heard your voice like
> in a video chat. Seeing people and being able to chat with them is one way I get
> to know people better. I'd be willing to video chat with you, too, so I will know
> the truth about who you are, too. If you know who I am better, you will come to
> understand me better and will see that in my heart I want to do right by people
> because I want them to do right by me, too. It's just the right thing to do.
>
>> You are a nice lady
>
> I try to be, and I try to get to know people and give them many chances so I don't
> end up misunderstanding them. I also don't want to take up someone elses
> offense... what I mean by that is... I don't want to judge you, for example, on
> the basis of someone elses disagreement with you, like between you and dave. I
> will listen to him and to you, but that will not make my decision about who you or
> he is or is not. There are so many factors involved when people don't get along.
> I can like Dave, but I can also like you, too, even if Dave doesn't....... If you
> say something about Dave that I know is not true, I will say so.. and if he says
> something about you I know is not true.. I will also say so to him.
>
>> but DO NOT stick your nose into the differences I and others with that Idiot and
>> Troll and then I will not involve you and others will also not involve you as
>> someone taking sides with the wrong issue.
>
>
> I don't want to get in the middle of you and Dave's issues concerning various
> disagreements, but if I know something is or isn't true, I feel it would be wrong
> of me not to speak up and say so. I don't do it to tick you off or anyone else. I
> do it because I feel it would be wrong of me to keep quiet. For me, it is the
> greater *sin*, you could say, to protect myself from attack and to keep quiet,
> than to offend someone because I told the truth. I really don't want to be
> attacked or offend you either, but if someone said an untruth about me I'd want
> someone to come and tell the truth even if it cost them something on my behalf. I
> do for other people what I would want them to do for me. Does this make any
> sense?
>
> --
> Jenn (from Oklahoma)
>

[Jenn]

Peter Foldes wrote:
>
> "Jenn" <nope@noway.atnohow.anyday> wrote in message
> news:hqcjvv$40q$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>>
>> "Peter Foldes" <okf22@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:hqcfqq$j4i$1@speranza.aioe.org...
>>>> news:hpvqpm$so9$1@speranza.aioe.org...
>>>>> There you go. Showing what you are all about. All I said to you
>>>>> and I did put it nicely "Do not involve yourself between BD and
>>>>> others" I guess this is too much for you to bare. " The authority
>>>>> here in the alt. groups seems to be you and darn it Jenn you just
>>>>> showed it. Good luck to you .
>>
>>
>>>> I am a woman...a mother, a wife (married going on 30 yrs this
>>>> May), and a grandmother, and I don't like you or any other man
>>>> trying to tell me what to do, Peter ... I have a mind of my own
>>>> and intend on using it. What gives you the right to tell me
>>>> whether or not to respond to anyone, especially if they have made
>>>> a comment regarding me in their post?
>>
>>>> I am up front with how I feel about things, so there isn't any me
>>>> *showing* what I'm all about, because I am just who I am all the
>>>> time. I say what is on my mind.
>>
>>>> You did not answer my question, either. Do you want to try to be
>>>> friends or not? Friends should be able to be up front with each
>>>> other and even disagree on issues from time to time.. and still be
>>>> able to maintain their friendship. I don't have to agree with
>>>> everything you say and vice versa in order to be friends with
>>>> someone. I'm willing to keep trying if you are willing.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> Never told you that. What I told you if you care to re-read the
>>> post is to stay out of the conversation between BD and others. You
>>> twist words around just like BD and take things out of context and
>>> you deserved what you got.
>>
>> I don't twist anyone's words, Peter. I just say what is on my mind. If
>> someone says something is not true, but I know it is true.. I say
>> it is true. That isn't twisting anyone's words. I would do the
>> same for you if someone said untrue things about you....... just
>> like I posted on SE that I believed what you said about when you
>> were young. I defended you on that point because I believe you. But for
>> me.... to get to know people better... I like to look people
>> in their eyes and see their facial expressions and they can see my
>> eyes and my facial expressions so we both understand each other
>> better. If you notice, I pretty much only comment on what I've seen
>> ... like I've seen and video chatted with Dave and his wife and seen
>> family photos and all that stuff. Before I video chatted with Dave,
>> I had many doubts about him, too... reservations about who he
>> was...etc... but I'm very cautious with people and I find it
>> difficult to trust people, anyway, so that is a normal response for
>> me until I see people and can look them in the eyes and get to know
>> them better. I've never seen you, or heard your voice like in a
>> video chat. Seeing people and being able to chat with them is one
>> way I get to know people better. I'd be willing to video chat with
>> you, too, so I will know the truth about who you are, too. If you
>> know who I am better, you will come to understand me better and will
>> see that in my heart I want to do right by people because I want
>> them to do right by me, too. It's just the right thing to do.
>>> You are a nice lady
>>
>> I try to be, and I try to get to know people and give them many
>> chances so I don't end up misunderstanding them. I also don't want
>> to take up someone elses offense... what I mean by that is... I
>> don't want to judge you, for example, on the basis of someone elses
>> disagreement with you, like between you and dave. I will listen to
>> him and to you, but that will not make my decision about who you or
>> he is or is not. There are so many factors involved when people
>> don't get along. I can like Dave, but I can also like you, too, even
>> if Dave doesn't....... If you say something about Dave that I know
>> is not true, I will say so.. and if he says something about you I
>> know is not true.. I will also say so to him.
>>> but DO NOT stick your nose into the differences I and others with
>>> that Idiot and Troll and then I will not involve you and others
>>> will also not involve you as someone taking sides with the wrong
>>> issue.
>>
>>
>> I don't want to get in the middle of you and Dave's issues
>> concerning various disagreements, but if I know something is or
>> isn't true, I feel it would be wrong of me not to speak up and say
>> so. I don't do it to tick you off or anyone else. I do it because I
>> feel it would be wrong of me to keep quiet. For me, it is the
>> greater *sin*, you could say, to protect myself from attack and to
>> keep quiet, than to offend someone because I told the truth. I
>> really don't want to be attacked or offend you either, but if
>> someone said an untruth about me I'd want someone to come and tell
>> the truth even if it cost them something on my behalf. I do for
>> other people what I would want them to do for me. Does this make
>> any sense?


> Jenn
>
> And I say the same to you
> I am a man ..a father a husband (going on 40 yrs this July), and a
> grandfather,

.....congrats on the 40 yrs in July!

> and I don't like you or any other woman or man putting
> their nose and 2 cents into the business between me and that idiot
> Troll David Brooks (aka BD) You would like to avoid situations like this
> Jenn then I would
> strongly suggest that you avoid your opinions either way when it
> comes to BD and anybody else including me concerning him. Stay
> neutral and avoid any comments to either sides.

Do you really want me to stay neutral? Then, don't say things that are not
true about Dave or his family, specifically. I've seen proof myself of his 2
sons, his 1 daughter, his wife, and several other things....... It's really
bad form to attack someones family, imo. I've told him the same thing, too,
and also told another fellow on my bbs the same thing when he attacked
another posters family member. I have no interest in any squabbles you have
with him on other topics, and if you looked back you would see my comments
usually had something to do with knowing his family details myself and
posting what I knew to be true.

> Life and enjoying yourself on these and other groups will be so much more
> enjoyable for
> you. Have a nice weekend

thanks.. it's raining this weekend here, but thats ok. As long as it's not
tornados or floods, a little rain is a good thing! Right? I know
you're in Canada. Is it still cold up there or has spring come yet?


--
Jenn (from Oklahoma)

[Peter Foldes]

Jenn
This is not a discussion for this newsgroup. You are wrong and he has you eating out
of his hand. He is using other people to communicate with you and passing them off
as his family. Jenn you have fallen for this idiot and Troll. Your mistake and again
stay out of anything between DB or BD that myself and others are posting. STAY
NEUTRAL and do NOT put your nose or 2 cents in there even if you think it is right
or wrong, Then there will be no animosity and yelling and name calling.
I will not answer to your reply because obviously knowing you, you need to have the
last word.
You want to continue a dialogue with me then I have told you what to do to get to
email. I will not do it your way so please refresh the method to contact me

--
Peter

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"Jenn" <nope@noway.atnohow.anyday> wrote in message
news:hqcu40$7ml$1@news.eternal-september.org...
> Peter Foldes wrote:
>>
>> "Jenn" <nope@noway.atnohow.anyday> wrote in message
>> news:hqcjvv$40q$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>
>>> "Peter Foldes" <okf22@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:hqcfqq$j4i$1@speranza.aioe.org...
>>>>> news:hpvqpm$so9$1@speranza.aioe.org...
>>>>>> There you go. Showing what you are all about. All I said to you
>>>>>> and I did put it nicely "Do not involve yourself between BD and
>>>>>> others" I guess this is too much for you to bare. " The authority
>>>>>> here in the alt. groups seems to be you and darn it Jenn you just
>>>>>> showed it. Good luck to you .
>>>
>>>
>>>>> I am a woman...a mother, a wife (married going on 30 yrs this
>>>>> May), and a grandmother, and I don't like you or any other man
>>>>> trying to tell me what to do, Peter ... I have a mind of my own
>>>>> and intend on using it. What gives you the right to tell me
>>>>> whether or not to respond to anyone, especially if they have made
>>>>> a comment regarding me in their post?
>>>
>>>>> I am up front with how I feel about things, so there isn't any me
>>>>> *showing* what I'm all about, because I am just who I am all the
>>>>> time. I say what is on my mind.
>>>
>>>>> You did not answer my question, either. Do you want to try to be
>>>>> friends or not? Friends should be able to be up front with each
>>>>> other and even disagree on issues from time to time.. and still be
>>>>> able to maintain their friendship. I don't have to agree with
>>>>> everything you say and vice versa in order to be friends with
>>>>> someone. I'm willing to keep trying if you are willing.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Never told you that. What I told you if you care to re-read the
>>>> post is to stay out of the conversation between BD and others. You
>>>> twist words around just like BD and take things out of context and
>>>> you deserved what you got.
>>>
>>> I don't twist anyone's words, Peter. I just say what is on my mind. If someone
>>> says something is not true, but I know it is true.. I say
>>> it is true. That isn't twisting anyone's words. I would do the
>>> same for you if someone said untrue things about you....... just
>>> like I posted on SE that I believed what you said about when you
>>> were young. I defended you on that point because I believe you. But for me....
>>> to get to know people better... I like to look people
>>> in their eyes and see their facial expressions and they can see my
>>> eyes and my facial expressions so we both understand each other
>>> better. If you notice, I pretty much only comment on what I've seen
>>> ... like I've seen and video chatted with Dave and his wife and seen
>>> family photos and all that stuff. Before I video chatted with Dave,
>>> I had many doubts about him, too... reservations about who he
>>> was...etc... but I'm very cautious with people and I find it
>>> difficult to trust people, anyway, so that is a normal response for
>>> me until I see people and can look them in the eyes and get to know
>>> them better. I've never seen you, or heard your voice like in a
>>> video chat. Seeing people and being able to chat with them is one
>>> way I get to know people better. I'd be willing to video chat with
>>> you, too, so I will know the truth about who you are, too. If you
>>> know who I am better, you will come to understand me better and will
>>> see that in my heart I want to do right by people because I want
>>> them to do right by me, too. It's just the right thing to do.
>>>> You are a nice lady
>>>
>>> I try to be, and I try to get to know people and give them many
>>> chances so I don't end up misunderstanding them. I also don't want
>>> to take up someone elses offense... what I mean by that is... I
>>> don't want to judge you, for example, on the basis of someone elses
>>> disagreement with you, like between you and dave. I will listen to
>>> him and to you, but that will not make my decision about who you or
>>> he is or is not. There are so many factors involved when people
>>> don't get along. I can like Dave, but I can also like you, too, even
>>> if Dave doesn't....... If you say something about Dave that I know
>>> is not true, I will say so.. and if he says something about you I
>>> know is not true.. I will also say so to him.
>>>> but DO NOT stick your nose into the differences I and others with
>>>> that Idiot and Troll and then I will not involve you and others
>>>> will also not involve you as someone taking sides with the wrong
>>>> issue.
>>>
>>>
>>> I don't want to get in the middle of you and Dave's issues
>>> concerning various disagreements, but if I know something is or
>>> isn't true, I feel it would be wrong of me not to speak up and say
>>> so. I don't do it to tick you off or anyone else. I do it because I
>>> feel it would be wrong of me to keep quiet. For me, it is the
>>> greater *sin*, you could say, to protect myself from attack and to
>>> keep quiet, than to offend someone because I told the truth. I
>>> really don't want to be attacked or offend you either, but if
>>> someone said an untruth about me I'd want someone to come and tell
>>> the truth even if it cost them something on my behalf. I do for
>>> other people what I would want them to do for me. Does this make
>>> any sense?
>
>
>> Jenn
>>
>> And I say the same to you
>> I am a man ..a father a husband (going on 40 yrs this July), and a
>> grandfather,
>
> ....congrats on the 40 yrs in July!
>
>> and I don't like you or any other woman or man putting
>> their nose and 2 cents into the business between me and that idiot
>> Troll David Brooks (aka BD) You would like to avoid situations like this Jenn
>> then I would
>> strongly suggest that you avoid your opinions either way when it
>> comes to BD and anybody else including me concerning him. Stay
>> neutral and avoid any comments to either sides.
>
> Do you really want me to stay neutral? Then, don't say things that are not true
> about Dave or his family, specifically. I've seen proof myself of his 2 sons, his
> 1 daughter, his wife, and several other things....... It's really bad form to
> attack someones family, imo. I've told him the same thing, too, and also told
> another fellow on my bbs the same thing when he attacked another posters family
> member. I have no interest in any squabbles you have with him on other topics,
> and if you looked back you would see my comments usually had something to do with
> knowing his family details myself and posting what I knew to be true.
>
>> Life and enjoying yourself on these and other groups will be so much more
>> enjoyable for
>> you. Have a nice weekend
>
> thanks.. it's raining this weekend here, but thats ok. As long as it's not
> tornados or floods, a little rain is a good thing! Right? I know you're in
> Canada. Is it still cold up there or has spring come yet?
>
>
> --
> Jenn (from Oklahoma)
>

[Buffalo]

Peter Foldes wrote:
> Jenn
>
> And I say the same to you
> I am a man ..a father a husband (going on 40 yrs this July), and a
> grandfather, and I don't like you or any other woman or man putting
> their nose and 2 cents into the business between me and that idiot
> Troll David Brooks (aka BD)
> You would like to avoid situations like this Jenn then I would
> strongly suggest that you avoid your opinions either way when it
> comes to BD and anybody else including me concerning him. Stay
> neutral and avoid any comments to either sides. Life and enjoying
> yourself on these and other groups will be so much more enjoyable for
> you. Have a nice weekend

If you want it private, than make it so. Don't put it in a public ng.
???????
Buffalo
PS: Yeah, right, like you have the 'say-so' about who can, should, may post
in a public ng.
You remind me of the inconsiderate idiots who gab on their cell phones while
using public transportation.