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[David H. Lipman]

From: "~BD~" <BoaterDave@hotmail.co.uk>

| David Kaye wrote:
>> ~BD~<BoaterDave@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>>> Hi David

>>> You may possibly find this item of interest.

>>> http://www.itknowledge24.com/Introdu...Essentials.pdf


>> Thanks Dave, but I already get updates on this stuff directly from Microsoft.

| <shrug> I thought it was a very new *non-Microsoft* item.

| I apologise if you had already viewed the document.

| I am interested to learn why you declined to use MSE in favour of Avast!
| (which recently proved ineffective)

The fact is *ANY* and *EVERY* anti malware application may be proved to be ineffective at
one point or another for some malware.


--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp

[~BD~]

David H. Lipman wrote:
> From: "~BD~"<BoaterDave@hotmail.co.uk>
>
> | David Kaye wrote:
>>> ~BD~<BoaterDave@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>>>> Hi David
>
>>>> You may possibly find this item of interest.
>
>>>> http://www.itknowledge24.com/Introdu...Essentials.pdf
>
>
>>> Thanks Dave, but I already get updates on this stuff directly from Microsoft.
>
> |<shrug> I thought it was a very new *non-Microsoft* item.
>
> | I apologise if you had already viewed the document.
>
> | I am interested to learn why you declined to use MSE in favour of Avast!
> | (which recently proved ineffective)
>
> The fact is *ANY* and *EVERY* anti malware application may be proved to be ineffective at
> one point or another for some malware.
>
>

For once I agree with you - 100%.

Were *you* notified by Microsoft about this new pdf file David?

--
Dave

[David Kaye]

~BD~ <BoaterDave@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:

>Were *you* notified by Microsoft about this new pdf file David?
>

I get security bulletins from various sources automatically for Windows and
for Ubuntu and Mandriva Linux. What you posted is a layman's pdf of Security
Essentials, which is essentially a security suite Microsoft bought about 2
years ago. It is nothing new or amazing.

[~BD~]

David Kaye wrote:
> ~BD~<BoaterDave@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Were *you* notified by Microsoft about this new pdf file David?
>>
>
> I get security bulletins from various sources automatically for Windows and
> for Ubuntu and Mandriva Linux. What you posted is a layman's pdf of Security
> Essentials, which is essentially a security suite Microsoft bought about 2
> years ago. It is nothing new or amazing.
>

David,

You said "... bought about 2 years ago."

That's the first I've heard about that. I'd understood MSE to have been
developed internally by Microsoft itself.

From which company did Microsoft purchase MSE?

I do remember them buying Giant which they subsequently branded as
Antispyware, then Windows Defender, but have heard nothing at all about
about a purchase of MSE under any name at all. Seems odd.

The *document* is new - 27 March 2010. I was surprised that you had seen
it already, being busy as you are. Oh well!

--
Dave

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RAV from Bucharest Romania

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"~BD~" <BoaterDave@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
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> David Kaye wrote:
>> ~BD~<BoaterDave@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> Were *you* notified by Microsoft about this new pdf file David?
>>>
>>
>> I get security bulletins from various sources automatically for Windows and
>> for Ubuntu and Mandriva Linux. What you posted is a layman's pdf of Security
>> Essentials, which is essentially a security suite Microsoft bought about 2
>> years ago. It is nothing new or amazing.
>>
>
> David,
>
> You said "... bought about 2 years ago."
>
> That's the first I've heard about that. I'd understood MSE to have been developed
> internally by Microsoft itself.
>
> From which company did Microsoft purchase MSE?
>
> I do remember them buying Giant which they subsequently branded as Antispyware,
> then Windows Defender, but have heard nothing at all about about a purchase of MSE
> under any name at all. Seems odd.
>
> The *document* is new - 27 March 2010. I was surprised that you had seen it
> already, being busy as you are. Oh well!
>
> --
> Dave

[Peter Foldes]

http://www.ravantivirus.com/

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"~BD~" <BoaterDave@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
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> David Kaye wrote:
>> ~BD~<BoaterDave@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> Were *you* notified by Microsoft about this new pdf file David?
>>>
>>
>> I get security bulletins from various sources automatically for Windows and
>> for Ubuntu and Mandriva Linux. What you posted is a layman's pdf of Security
>> Essentials, which is essentially a security suite Microsoft bought about 2
>> years ago. It is nothing new or amazing.
>>
>
> David,
>
> You said "... bought about 2 years ago."
>
> That's the first I've heard about that. I'd understood MSE to have been developed
> internally by Microsoft itself.
>
> From which company did Microsoft purchase MSE?
>
> I do remember them buying Giant which they subsequently branded as Antispyware,
> then Windows Defender, but have heard nothing at all about about a purchase of MSE
> under any name at all. Seems odd.
>
> The *document* is new - 27 March 2010. I was surprised that you had seen it
> already, being busy as you are. Oh well!
>
> --
> Dave

[David H. Lipman]

From: "David Kaye" <sfdavidkaye2@yahoo.com>

| ~BD~ <BoaterDave@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:

>>Were *you* notified by Microsoft about this new pdf file David?


| I get security bulletins from various sources automatically for Windows and
| for Ubuntu and Mandriva Linux. What you posted is a layman's pdf of Security
| Essentials, which is essentially a security suite Microsoft bought about 2
| years ago. It is nothing new or amazing.


Actually... No.

MSE is based upon Microsoft's purchase of RAV from GeCAD. That was purchased 7~8 years
agon.

The GeCAD AV engine became the basis of Microsoft's OneCare paid-for anti virus solution.

The GeCAD engine has gone though some revolutions and mods but is the core of Microsoft
Malcious Sofware removal Tool and Security Essentials albeit with different signature
sets.

--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp

[David Kaye]

"David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote:

>MSE is based upon Microsoft's purchase of RAV from GeCAD. That was purchased
> 7~8 years ago.

Gosh, time flies.

[David H. Lipman]

From: "David Kaye" <sfdavidkaye2@yahoo.com>


>>MSE is based upon Microsoft's purchase of RAV from GeCAD. That was purchased
>> 7~8 years ago.

| Gosh, time flies.


Yeah... It sure does. Time is an interesting concept as a function of age. The older
one gets the more time compresses (appears shorter) yet intruduce adrenaline into the
system and time expands. That is as one ages time seems shorter and shorter. Introduce
adrenaline into the system and for that period an actual short period of time seems to
take a very long time.




--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp

[David H. Lipman]

From: "~BD~" <BoaterDave@hotmail.co.uk>

| David H. Lipman wrote:
>> From: "~BD~"<BoaterDave@hotmail.co.uk>

>> | David Kaye wrote:
>>>> ~BD~<BoaterDave@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>> Hi David

>>>>> You may possibly find this item of interest.

>>>>> http://www.itknowledge24.com/Introdu...Essentials.pdf


>>>> Thanks Dave, but I already get updates on this stuff directly from Microsoft.

>> |<shrug> I thought it was a very new *non-Microsoft* item.

>> | I apologise if you had already viewed the document.

>> | I am interested to learn why you declined to use MSE in favour of Avast!
>> | (which recently proved ineffective)

>> The fact is *ANY* and *EVERY* anti malware application may be proved to be ineffective
>> at
>> one point or another for some malware.



| For once I agree with you - 100%.

| Were *you* notified by Microsoft about this new pdf file David?

It wasn't produced by Microsoft. It was produced by itknowledge24.com who has NO
relationship with Microsoft.

It was a itknowledge24.com creation done in Microsoft Word using the Adobe Acrobat v9.0
Word Macro.

It frankly provides nothing more than a introduction "how to" manual for the uninitiated.
It has ZERO information that I need as a more advanced user.

--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp