Re: Avast Doesn't Block XP Defender malware (ave.exe)

[Leythos]

In article <s4udnV8k44anPybWnZ2dnUVZ_sOdnZ2d@giganews.com>,
agoado@msn.com says...
>
> "Leythos" <spam999free@rrohio.com> wrote
>
> > Punch cards, both the 96 and the earlier version as well as having to
> > toggle instructions into the "computer" via switches and then
> > increment... We've come a long way since those days.
>
>
> Punch cards using FORTRAN with WatIV and WatV.
>
> Nothing like the feeling of a stack of cards clutched in your hand as
> the squeezed middle explodes and scatters upward on your way to the
> batch tray. Next two hours on a wide expanse of floor reordering them -
> "Here's 0001, now here's 0693, now 0428, oh yeah 0002 after 0001, here's
> 1867..."

HA HA HA - we got smart and started drawing a diagonal line down the
side of the stack, making it easy to see if a card was out of place.



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[Jenn]

"Ant" <not@home.today> wrote in message
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> "Jenn" wrote:
>
>> "Dustin Cook" wrote:
>>> "Ant" wrote:
<snip>
> Computers were unheard of in school when I was a kid. It was only
> after some years of work that I got into them and never looked back.

I could have said that same thing, but you said it first! LOL


<snip>
>> I'm a bit of a geek... and even more unusual a female geek.. sort of LOL
>> ... try wrapping your mind around that bit of irony ... only I am better
>> at
>> the creative stuff .. LOL I think the notion that geeks (or computer
>> people) have an antisocial bent is a misinterpretation of the reality
>> that
>> most of us are independent, practical, creative, artistic people, and
>> also
>> good at math.. Are you good at math?? Creative people don't have
>> the
>> same need for alot of social acceptance... not that creative people don't
>> enjoy it ... we just don't depend on it like some other personality types
>> might. FWIW.. you don't seem antisocial to me at all.. just normal. LOL
>
> Well said, Jenn. I can stay at home for days at a time and be totally
> wrapped up in what I'm doing, computing-wise. Fortunately, I have a
> circle of friends and acquaintances at my local pub and make a point
> of going there for lunch a few times a week to keep in touch with the
> real world!

I turn more toward creative hobbies myself.. I love to create bonsai trees
and sit for hours pruning them to shape.. potting them up and then wiring
them to finish out the shape. Lately I've been working on a miniature
bonsai.. it seems to enjoy a home in my north facing kitchen window. I'm
very pleased with how it's doing too.


>>> So to sum it up, if getting older (60s, 70s) or however old you are,
>>> under present conditions does not appeal to me.
>>
>> Actually, the older a person gets, the more comfortable it gets being
>> true
>> to ones self. You are 33? It gets better .......

> That's very true. Overall, I'm much more content and settled than I
> was in my 30's.


I really believe the 40's are just when a person gets comfortable with who
they are... after that it's icing on the cake as far as being ones self and
not being so worried about the world thinks ...

--
Jenn (from Oklahoma)

[~BD~]

FromTheRafters wrote:
> "Ant"<not@home.today> wrote in message
> news:BNmdnafAKawjAybWnZ2dnUVZ7qednZ2d@brightview.c o.uk...
>> "FromTheRafters" wrote:
>>
>>> I've been computering since 1972. Programming in BASIC, FORTRAN,
>>> ALGOL,
>>> and COBOL. No IBM cards involved (did have paper tape though). I
>>> believe
>>> Ant has been doing this longer than I. I may claim an earlier date,
>>> but
>>> I believe he was "hands-on" where I was via teletype.
>>
>> Very much hands on, in fact I ruled the computer room (or thought I
>> did). An early BOFH, but not so much of a *******! I soon taught
>> myself Fortran and assembler and tested it on the machines during
>> idle-time. Then moved in to programming full-time and learnt a few
>> more languages on the way. These days, I'm mostly into C and x86 asm.
>
> Once you have the concept of how computer languages work, you can be
> better equipped to choose the right one for a project. I started out
> with a library book on machine language programming, and was intrigued
> by how assembler mnemonics made it easier to program. Spaghetti coding
> in BASIC led me to the more structured languages.
>
> ...then, due to a small 'inciting to riot' conviction, shifted into
> electronics technician (ET) instead of data systems technician (DS) upon
> joining the US Navy. That gave me some hardware experience to go along
> with the rest. All-in-all, I haven't done much programming.
>
>
What did you do in the US Navy, FTR?

Did you serve for a long or short time?

What work did you do when you left service? Unlike some, I made a
complete change in direction when I became a civilian!

--
Dave

[FromTheRafters]

"~BD~" <BoaterDave@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
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> FromTheRafters wrote:
>> "Ant"<not@home.today> wrote in message
>> news:BNmdnafAKawjAybWnZ2dnUVZ7qednZ2d@brightview.c o.uk...
>>> "FromTheRafters" wrote:
>>>
>>>> I've been computering since 1972. Programming in BASIC, FORTRAN,
>>>> ALGOL,
>>>> and COBOL. No IBM cards involved (did have paper tape though). I
>>>> believe
>>>> Ant has been doing this longer than I. I may claim an earlier date,
>>>> but
>>>> I believe he was "hands-on" where I was via teletype.
>>>
>>> Very much hands on, in fact I ruled the computer room (or thought I
>>> did). An early BOFH, but not so much of a *******! I soon taught
>>> myself Fortran and assembler and tested it on the machines during
>>> idle-time. Then moved in to programming full-time and learnt a few
>>> more languages on the way. These days, I'm mostly into C and x86
>>> asm.
>>
>> Once you have the concept of how computer languages work, you can be
>> better equipped to choose the right one for a project. I started out
>> with a library book on machine language programming, and was
>> intrigued
>> by how assembler mnemonics made it easier to program. Spaghetti
>> coding
>> in BASIC led me to the more structured languages.
>>
>> ...then, due to a small 'inciting to riot' conviction, shifted into
>> electronics technician (ET) instead of data systems technician (DS)
>> upon
>> joining the US Navy. That gave me some hardware experience to go
>> along
>> with the rest. All-in-all, I haven't done much programming.
>>
>>
> What did you do in the US Navy, FTR?

Electronic repair and maintenance of radar, IFF, and *other*
communications gear.

> Did you serve for a long or short time?

Six years.

> What work did you do when you left service?

Worked on a DOD contract for a while, then bench technician, then
installer (car stereos, discothéque lights and sound, intercomm
systems), then came home to care for elderly parents - and became a
grocery store (supermarket) worker (that's where the white frocks and
sharp objects come into play).

....it was time for a change anyway.

> Unlike some, I made a complete change in direction when I became a
> civilian!

I guess that depends on the usefulness of the skill set you came away
with. I would rather repair electronics than have a job where I had to
carry a gun, don't get me wrong, I like guns - I just don't want a job
that requires one (like teaching in school for instance) D

[Leythos]

In article <hphsc6$37d$1@news.eternal-september.org>,
erratic@nomail.afraid.org says...
> Electronic repair and maintenance of radar, IFF, and *other*
> communications gear.
>

AT or AQ?

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voice inside you that most civilians don't even hear -- Listen to that.
Trust yourself.
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[FromTheRafters]

"Leythos" <spam999free@rrohio.com> wrote in message
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> In article <hphsc6$37d$1@news.eternal-september.org>,
> erratic@nomail.afraid.org says...
>> Electronic repair and maintenance of radar, IFF, and *other*
>> communications gear.
>>
>
> AT or AQ?

ETR "A" school followed by ETN "C" schools (they removed the distinction
at that time and made the ET class all encompassing). My "C" school
instructors often said things like "the exciter stage works the same as
it did in "A" school" and I would have to ask for clarification because
radar doesn't modulate that way. Most crypto, fire control, and ECM gear
was maintained from within their own departments. My favorite school was
the one at Xerox - that's some amazing stuff there. My favorite job task
was maintenance of a microwave site atop Mt. Vaca - one day I saw Mt.
Shasta, Heavenly (Tahoe), (Yosemite I think?), and the Golden Gate
Bridge from the tower. Many of the tests could be automated with the
Osborne - leaving time to go four-wheeling. D

[Leythos]

In article <hpi02l$ti1$1@news.eternal-september.org>,
erratic@nomail.afraid.org says...
> > AT or AQ?
>
> ETR "A" school followed by ETN "C" schools (they removed the distinction
> at that time and made the ET class all encompassing).
>

I was an AT, but I worked on the fire-control systems as well, they
created a shop that had both AT/AQ and each did the others jobs as
well..

CV-59 was the boat we floated on....

--
You can't trust your best friends, your five senses, only the little
voice inside you that most civilians don't even hear -- Listen to that.
Trust yourself.
spam999free@rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address)

[FromTheRafters]

"Leythos" <spam999free@rrohio.com> wrote in message
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> In article <hpi02l$ti1$1@news.eternal-september.org>,
> erratic@nomail.afraid.org says...
>> > AT or AQ?
>>
>> ETR "A" school followed by ETN "C" schools (they removed the
>> distinction
>> at that time and made the ET class all encompassing).
>>
>
> I was an AT, but I worked on the fire-control systems as well, they
> created a shop that had both AT/AQ and each did the others jobs as
> well..
>
> CV-59 was the boat we floated on....

LST-1189 (Gator Freighter) no avionics. Fire-control systems are cool,
but my ship type (Long Slow Target) wasn't really designed with much
shooting in mind (though it did have some three inch fifties).

[~BD~]

FromTheRafters wrote:
In response to BD's question ......

>> What did you do in the US Navy, FTR?
>
> Electronic repair and maintenance of radar, IFF, and *other*
> communications gear.
>
>> Did you serve for a long or short time?
>
> Six years.
>
>> What work did you do when you left service?
>
> Worked on a DOD contract for a while, then bench technician, then
> installer (car stereos, discothéque lights and sound, intercomm
> systems), then came home to care for elderly parents - and became a
> grocery store (supermarket) worker (that's where the white frocks and
> sharp objects come into play).
>
> ...it was time for a change anyway.

I've always known you are one of the good guys! ;-)

Many folk nowadays put their parent(s) into a home and take no
responsibility for their welfare. You'll no doubt be rewarded in heaven!

>> Unlike some, I made a complete change in direction when I became a
>> civilian!
>
> I guess that depends on the usefulness of the skill set you came away
> with. I would rather repair electronics than have a job where I had to
> carry a gun, don't get me wrong, I like guns - I just don't want a job
> that requires one (like teaching in school for instance) D

As You didn't ask, I won't bore you with detail!

Thank you for answering my questions.

--
Dave